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General => General Fun and Flames => Topic started by: Cronus on February 25, 2008, 12:05:00 AM
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Okay so this is Cronus, no need to deny my identity.
Came across this forum just browsing random sites.
Now obviously this forum has been started because you all hate PTCTalk.
Just so you know, we don't hate you back lol.
Most of you were banned simply for cursing a lot in the forums.
Most of you would probably be welcomed back with open arms actually.
We don't hate you, we only banned you because of simple cursing.
It's an open forum, we are obligated to filter it.
You seem to think The TitanCash Network is a scam now because you were banned.
You all know AdverCash/TitanClicks/Turbobux pays and doesn't scam.
I've actually paid a few of you here in this forum.
PTCTalk is the only thorn in the networks side right now, and I agree with that fully.
That's why I talked Enigma into letting me be owner, it was making the network look horrible.
Currently I'm trying to clean it up as much as possible, it's very hard to do though.
Personally if I was Enigma I would just trash it, but I know he won't, so I'm here to fix it.
Also you all seem to hate the fact there are young people at PTCTalk.
While it is true, most of them aren't worth much, some are reliable.
You seem to hate the fact we allow young people on the forum, but there isn't much choice.
Most PTC's(including the larger ones) allow anyone over the age of 13 to join and be paid.
They are experiencing the difficulties in PTCs just like everyone else, and have an opinion.
Some scam, yeah its basically part of the whole PTC industry now.
Scams are everywhere, mostly because of the lame PTC scripts that are passed around so easily now.
Anyone can start their own, and scam thousands. iCashout seems to be making a living from it.
But even with the scammers, there are still legitimate young webmasters.
Myself, Enigma, assault, and a few more are a few names I can think of off the top of my head.
And with paypal limiting everyone now, it's giving scammers more of a reason to run.
We can't ban younger people from joining, solely because they are welcome on PTC sites.
If you want to stop them, come into the forum and tell them off(just cool down on the language).
I'm thinking about starting a hidden forum solely for trusted PTC owners/users.
Pretty simple to see who would all be invited. And it would be invite-only, no outsiders.
If anyone is interested in this invite-only board let me know.
Otherwise I'm just here for discussion.
I agree with most of the statements you made on this forum.
Minus the claim that my network scams, we obviously don't.
But other than that PTCTalk is starting to go downhill, and I want to fix it.
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a forum full of hate is better than a forum full of scammin little kids..end of story,...you want to call truce?????
get rid of the little kids!!
we are trying to conduct business
not play games with 11 year olds all day
advertisersd and marketers dont want to advertise to little JITTERBUGS
i also dont want to send/receive any funds form illegal paypal account holders
time for underagers to go BYE BYE >:( >:(
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if i can't tell someone off without being myself, then it is a waste of f*cking time. why the f*ck should we use ptctalk? everyone can see what you ppl did when i was banned. removed CV from all parts of the site, and you must really think we are idiots so much we can't use proxies, we know whats going on over there we can see if with our own eyes. and until OXI is cut out a big portion of us sat "FUCK OFF"
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Not all "little kids" scam.
Most of them are just there to click ads.
So saying all of them are scammers is a little outlandish.
We can't determine who is underage anyways.
Anyone can just say they are older.
Either way they are going to be around and PTCs accept them anyways.
Also since most people don't use PayPal anymore it's not really a problem.
It's almost impossible to verify an account on AlertPay while underage.
Since they ask for proof of ID and such, which reminds me I need to send that in.
I came in for suggestions, not to be flamed.
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if i can't tell someone off without being myself, then it is a waste of f*cking time. why the f*ck should we use ptctalk? everyone can see what you ppl did when i was banned. removed CV from all parts of the site, and you must really think we are idiots so much we can't use proxies, we know whats going on over there we can see if with our own eyes. and until OXI is cut out a big portion of us sat "FUCK OFF"
We know you use proxies, that's common sense, we know you are watching.
I actually backed your end twysted, I told enigma not to ban you.
I actually stopped him from doing it earlier, about 5 times.
But he was sole owner at the time and decided he wouldn't listen to me anymore.
If you think I'm just out to get you, you are wrong.
I have a little more sense than most think, just because enigma says something doesn't mean I agree.
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Welcome to the forum. May I ask though why do you guys just jump on a new PTC for being a scam?
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Welcome to the forum. May I ask though why do you guys just jump on a new PTC for being a scam?
I don't jump on any sites for being a scam.
Our members are the ones who do that.
The only ones I claim scam to are the ones that look to be iCashout related.
iCashout was a huge hit and someone I truly would like to take to court one day.
But I never invested so I cannot, or I most definately would.
What he did to everyone(multiple times) is terrible and someone who invested should stand up.
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bottom line, i got banned for........hmmm don't even know what i got banned for......oh yeah not kissing ass!
oxi on the other hand hs come close to shutting down CV with his immaturity and actions and lies which he has stated on the forums. did he get banned for it? HELL NO! instead he got praise. so what does that tell everyone else?
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Welcome to the forum. May I ask though why do you guys just jump on a new PTC for being a scam?
I don't jump on any sites for being a scam.
Our members are the ones who do that.
The only ones I claim scam to are the ones that look to be iCashout related.
iCashout was a huge hit and someone I truly would like to take to court one day.
But I never invested so I cannot, or I most definately would.
What he did to everyone(multiple times) is terrible and someone who invested should stand up.
I did not invest there, but why do people on ptctalk keep saying velocity is a scam, when there no absolute proof it is not. There should be a rule where you can't judge until proof is given. Like in the probux case proof was given.
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Welcome to the forum. May I ask though why do you guys just jump on a new PTC for being a scam?
I don't jump on any sites for being a scam.
Our members are the ones who do that.
The only ones I claim scam to are the ones that look to be iCashout related.
iCashout was a huge hit and someone I truly would like to take to court one day.
But I never invested so I cannot, or I most definately would.
What he did to everyone(multiple times) is terrible and someone who invested should stand up.
I did not invest there, but why do people on ptctalk keep saying velocity is a scam, when there no absolute proof it is not. There should be a rule where you can't judge until proof is given. Like in the probux case proof was given.
yeah but then they would have to put my site back up and a lot of other sites back up.
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YOU KNOWINGLY ALLOWED OXI AND MANY OTHE RUNDERAGE KIDS TO OPERATE IN YOUR FORUM, WHICH I MIGHT ADD HAS TURNED OUT TO BE DISASTER 99% OF TIME
THESE LITTLE KIDS LOOK UP TO YOU ALL AS ROLE MODELS!!
YOU HAVE CREATED AN UNSTOPPABLE EPIDEMIC NOW
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we as owners can stop whom uses our sites, therefore we can stop the kids to a point. i have made my ptc for 18 and older, those that are kids that sign up already are breaking the rules. theefore if they will break terms because they can't read them what else will they do? use paypal illegally. if paypal see's they are fraudulent users. you lose any money you made off of them. cause paypal will take it back. no matter what. so therefore you are standing thee and incouraging this bullshit
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It's been proven that Oxi is a hacker, despite what you say Cronus.
How can anyone go back to a forum where you can't admit it?
And I hear that Simplestash is being called a scam? Why, because I'm getting out of Oxi's crappy script and will be up tomorrow?
Random sites? I don't believe that. You read about it somewhere, just like I did.
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I have my questionable thoughts towards Velocity.
There are a few facts I know of that could connect it to iCashout.
But I have been trying to not claim sites to be scams lately.
Everyone thinks we just call everyone scams to make ourselves look better.
So I'm done claiming things to be scam until they go offline.
As for velocity, they banned peotz's IP before he even joined.
iCashout hated peotz because he called them out on their own forums.
And before peotz even joined Velocity he was banned, strange.
Also they use the word "lol" a lot in their emails, just as iCashout did.
And recently one of our members posted a payment he got from Velocity, and it had iCashout's owner's name in the transaction.
Although this was just a copy/paste so it can't really be verified.
But it was from paidclicks.ws(i think that is the name).
Also twysted enigma said he banned you for your foul language all over the forum.
But like I said I told him just to edit it and tell you to try not to cuss as much.
But he seemed to be out to ban you, not much that I could do at the time.
Also he removed clickzvault solely because he was angry at you at the time.
Stalky, how do you plan on us to stop underage kids from joining?
They can simply fill in their age as 18+ and we can't stop them.
Everyone knows that. They aren't even allowed to have emails but they all have that.
Even hotmail and yahoo cant stop underage kids from creating accounts.
Also paypal won't take the money back twysted, they like their money just as much as anyone else.
They will just ban the underage's account and leave the money in yours.
Most people can't use paypal anymore anyways because of paypal's crackdown.
I don't think anyone has called simplestash a scam that I am aware of.
If you could link me that would be great.
I don't read every thread so I don't know.
Also oxi didn't hack anyone, trust me he isn't even smart enough.
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uhm........its pretty easy to stop underage kids form promoting their sites in your forum though right ??? ??? ???
pretty simple to tell them to go away and no one wants them right ??? ???
pretty simple to tell them that what they are doing is illegal (regardless of whether they use paypal or others,it doesnt matter) and it will not be tolerated in your forum right ??? ???
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also cronus, i dont know why your here, since this is all enigmas fault......i personaly liked how you stepped in and were cleaning the place up little by little,..
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Cronus you are not as bad I thought you were. I respect you more than I did before, but some of the staff at ptctalk I still do not.
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Cornus you are not as bad I thought you were. I respect you more than I did before, but some of the staff at ptctalk I still do not.
yes your absolutely right microx, cronus isnt such a bad guy, as for the rest of the staff there they might as well invite the whole getpaidsolutions.com forum crowd in there, thats about how clever your mods are, your mods have probably lied to you the whole time.... ;D..there all really 10 year olds...... ;D ;D
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Well I assumed a large portion of the hate was directed towards me lol.
Especially because of your thread where the admin pretended to be me.
And said that I steal referrals. ???
Well nonetheless ptctalk does need cleaned up, and I am trying my best.
I want to get this PTC Review Board up and running but I don't see any goo applicants yet.
I will probably accept Leon64 as he seems to know what is going on.
But no real confirms on that yet. As for my staff, yes they need replaced.
But I have yet to find anyone that I find good enough to take the spot.
Stopping all of the underages from posting there would be almost an impossible task.
The easier thing would be to moderate the forum harder, and clean up all the junk.
If you have any suggestions on how to do this, I'm up for it.
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Cronus I do not hate Ptctalk. i have always thought it was a great place for people to learn about Ptc but lately all i see there scammers and site owners supporting best friends and kicking the owners that are not members of the best friends club.
You are so busy trying to take down those who are trying to run honest sites that you dont have time to catch half of the scammers there.
Velocity might well be icashout but that whole thread is total rubbish and has absolutely no proof in it. The payment proof only shows someone called eric with a @live email bought ads at 10bux. it connects velocity to clickvoid. It in noway connects velocity to icashout.
as for a lol in a email? LOL
the great all knowing peotz being ip banned is totally stupid, he hardly ever visited icashout forum. Anything he ever posted about icashout was fed to him. he is a total idiot who now thinks he can decide who is scam or not based on his very long 4 months of experience.
too bad he doesnt know the meaning of the word scam. he could have saved a lot of people joining strawberryclciks because a 2 minute google search revealed exactly who owns it and why it is a scam that is never going to pay anyone.
Get rid of him and find someone who actually knows what he is talking about. it really is not very hard to find the underage kids and the scam
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My suggestion is at least read a review before bashing on it, one of my reviews on PTCTalk was bashed because it was a new website by an *cough* admin *cough*, I think you may know who I am now, but w/e.
Another thing you can do is setup a place where ACTUAL admins from ptc sites can post a topic where they can find out what people think about it and if they want to join. The "New PTC Websites" is a joke as people just post new sites even when it is not theirs. Also in that same section I don't think velocity is a new site anymore.
I have more, but I want to see what you think of these. As I said before Coronus your not a bad guy after all, you just seem bad with the staff around you at ptctalk. BTW I had no hate toward you or ptctalk, just annoyed how the system over there is a little corrupt and scammers can just come in run amock while your staff take a jab at the people there.
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yes a simple google search and looking at a few ads on the site was all that was necessary to see it was the same coinclick scammer,.....and HE COULD NOT SEE THAT??????
ROFL!
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Well I assumed a large portion of the hate was directed towards me lol.
Especially because of your thread where the admin pretended to be me.
And said that I steal referrals. ???
that was mostly just joking around there, we were bored LOL
but i must ask this, you have stated many times i have seen that you do not ever delete any members,.....
....then what do you do with our pruned referrals?............................................... ;)
......and why would it be necessary to prune them if you never delete members anyways..................................?..............
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We do delete members, we started this a few months back.
With a database full of 200,000 it was starting to lag the site.
We delete any user who has been inactive for over 50 days.
Other than that, we don't delete users, just ban if necessary.
If you prune someone, they sit unreferred until they are deleted for inactivity.
We do not put them back on the market, that would be a very very bad business practice.
I think I may do a staff revamp, but what staff do you find unsatisfactory?
I know of the obvious ones but are there any that you would really like to keep.
As for the review board, that would work micro but the owners never apply lol.
Most are busy and don't have time to review PTC sites all the time.
And also I still don't know who you are lol.
As I said, I don't read into most situations.
My moderators do the work cleaning the forums.
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We do delete members, we started this a few months back.
With a database full of 200,000 it was starting to lag the site.
We delete any user who has been inactive for over 50 days.
Other than that, we don't delete users, just ban if necessary.
If you prune someone, they sit unreferred until they are deleted for inactivity.
We do not put them back on the market, that would be a very very bad business practice.
I think I may do a staff revamp, but what staff do you find unsatisfactory?
I know of the obvious ones but are there any that you would really like to keep.
As for the review board, that would work micro but the owners never apply lol.
Most are busy and don't have time to review PTC sites all the time.
And also I still don't know who you are lol.
As I said, I don't read into most situations.
My moderators do the work cleaning the forums.
thank you for clearing that up, it was confusing because ive seen a few people ask you to delete their account and you responded telling them you do not delete accounts.
i understand now
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I really don't want to get people fired, but some of your global mods *cough* peo *cough* just don't know how to handle a situation. When a person on ptctalk is defending a PTC from people saying it is a scam when it is not peo always says why are you defending something you know is a scam. Refer to this topic: http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php/topic,7061.0.html <<Look at how he handles how the situation on page 2.
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I'm not sure what you were saying there micro.
Other than no more peotz lol.
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My bad, I mixed up my words. :p Read again.
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One of his IP's was traced to an account of mine I was told by a site owner. Isn't that enough to show he did it? He knows how to hack just as much as he knows how to create shit scripts.
Makes sense to me.
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i just want to say this out of everything that has happened, aside all the drama and words ever said between any of us... i want to take a quote from twysted here,
we as owners can stop whom uses our sites, therefore we can stop the kids to a point.
this is the main problem here which has caused the fighting, the paypal probs, the scams,......everything bad.......i dont mind so much kids clickin and using the sites.....but when kids get to involved and trying to run sites of their own and being scandolus(and i hope we all remember how unbeleivably scandoulous we were at age 11-17 come on now ::) ::) ) it has caused complete chaos on so many people, so many people have been directly and indirectly affected horribly,..and it only continues because other kids see oxidation and others as role models or they want to out do them.....or they just think hey,....look at all those gullible people in that forum( ;D )
so this quote from twysted is what we all need to focus on as a force.
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I was only 15 when I started my first online business and it ran quite well.
Twysted was there back then. I may have been a bit n00by but it got the job done lol.
Also as for forum moderators micro, peotz will most likely be removed.
On a side note, the advercash contest is right now if anyone is online and interested.
We are having an iSketch competition, winner gets $20.
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Peotz lashed out on my forum and has been banned.
Cronus, give me your ip so I can unban you from my site.
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Horselover my IP changes every time i reset my box.
I have DSL lol. I've never been blocked from your site.
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Cronus I am glad we can be friends. I wish I can apply for your review position, but I don't have time to look at ALL the new PTC's unfortunately.
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Lol, ok.
And I should edit. Peotz was demoted, not banned.
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Cronus look at this: http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php/topic,7784.70.html
Look at how peotz is lashing out against me, calling ME iCashout. I just suggested something and look at what HE does! That is how corrupt the staff is!
And yes, I am Titan.
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He has already been removed from staff.
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Thank you Cronus, I am sorry for sounding very mean, but I don't like to be called iCashOut as I am preety sure I am not! :P
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No problem. I completely understand.
I'm hoping to do a major revamp on there soon.
But I don't really have any staff to do it so I'm stuck.
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Cornus you are not as bad I thought you were. I respect you more than I did before, but some of the staff at ptctalk I still do not.
LOL u said CORNUS
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I will probably accept Leon64 as he seems to know what is going on.
But no real confirms on that yet. As for my staff, yes they need replaced.
But I have yet to find anyone that I find good enough to take the spot.
GREAT another underage wanna be site owner to judge the other underage wannabe site owners :D
maybe oxi can help too ???
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cronus thats great you ran a successful business when you were 15 but let me ask you was it a PTC site that got really huge and popular and had thousands of dollars running through the account daily?
also you know 99% of these kids are here to play games.that there is no denying, they see that first big chunk of change, then they see how it keeps comin, it gets too a humungous chunk, then they bail ;)
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Cronus what about a staff hiering. Hire some new staff.
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Well acapulco, when I was 15 I ran a coding business/online game.
I netted probably $5,000 in about a years time.
So technically it is thousands.
But we started AdverCash when I was 17, I am now 18.
So I believe I could answer yes to both statements.
Also, who do you have in mind Micro?
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Would you have a problem hiring me back or does Enigma's ruling stand with you?
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Would you have a problem hiring me back or does Enigma's ruling stand with you?
I really dont think that would solve any of the problems. They need a few people capable of filtering out the scam, they do not need even more spam ???
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As ludicrous as this sounds, I would hire staff members from the CIA, FBI, INTERPOL, and other law enforcement agencies ... talk about policing a forum. 8)
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i will not be supporting PTCTalk any as everytime i try to visit i see this
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry Twysted, you are banned from using this forum!
You have proven that you will never stop acting like a child. The ban has been changed to a permanent status. You are no longer welcome at PTC Talk, ever.
I stand by what i said and i ment it. and should not be punished because someone doesn't like my opinion so they call it childish.....being banned for that, now thats just plain immature.
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Would you have a problem hiring me back or does Enigma's ruling stand with you?
I really dont think that would solve any of the problems. They need a few people capable of filtering out the scam, they do not need even more spam ???
A little harsh don't you think? I did my job well, and I think that's why I mod on about 6 or 7 sites now.
I know the scams, I can see them, I'm not stupid. And every time I made reference to my site, I had a valid point.
Why don't you go bother someone else sabbie? I've heard from a few people that you're a freak anyways.
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Calm down people. ;)
Twysted you weren't banned for your opinions.
You were banned for flaming people and harsh language.
Even after many, many warnings.
I will talk to Enigma about bringing you back as mod HorseLover.
I don't know how well he will go for it but we shall see.
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Would you have a problem hiring me back or does Enigma's ruling stand with you?
I really dont think that would solve any of the problems. They need a few people capable of filtering out the scam, they do not need even more spam ???
A little harsh don't you think? I did my job well, and I think that's why I mod on about 6 or 7 sites now.
I know the scams, I can see them, I'm not stupid. And every time I made reference to my site, I had a valid point.
Why don't you go bother someone else sabbie? I've heard from a few people that you're a freak anyways.
:( :( :'( Sabbie is not a freak. Let's refrain from using insults towards other members on the forum.
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Sorry, but that's what I was told, it's not my opinion.
I never spammed my site, I always gave examples when I said something about it, and I don't recall always mentioning it by name.
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Calm down people. ;)
Twysted you weren't banned for your opinions.
You were banned for flaming people and harsh language.
Even after many, many warnings.
I will talk to Enigma about bringing you back as mod HorseLover.
I don't know how well he will go for it but we shall see.
this is what i said and got banned for it
he couldnt possibly calculate the exact cost of the upgrade to him anyway enigma ,as what the person makes depends on how many referrals the person has........
Then he should have said that, instead of "I cant make a profit if I make it any cheaper".
and you did it again......i have not said that, if those worrds in that order are not typed out then i did not say it! quit putting words in my mouth!
you think that what ever i said means profit. i didn't say profit now did i? so quit saying i did. you take everything you read as literal. not all of us are literal people...so get off my case. I am tired of the rude attacks and the shit you keep saying i am saying but no i am not. i told you to read what i said did i say for you to put it in your own words? no! did i tell you to modify it so it looks like i am saying something else? no!
I'm not gonna kiss your ass cause your the owner. I'm not that way. You want respect?! you earn it! it doesn't come in a lil package with your name on it. i could frankly care less if you ban me. all it proves is how big of an ass everyone already know you as.
as for my site. i don't scam so butt out! i didn't ask for this thread to be placed here, i actually did not want one on here. if someone needs support they need to goto the forum. thats what it is there for.
i was doing just dandy before all this fucking drama started. here's an idea Grow The Fuck Up!
And instead of judging the way i do thing on MY site worry about your own shit god already knows of all the security holes.
As for oxi the lil liar. how about you tell everyone where you really got the script for MRC, then you can also tell them that your supposed "self created" script is just MRC with some improvements. You can't own rights to something that was never yours in the first place. and modifying a few lines of code doesn't make it yours either. i know exactly where the script came from i have the original before MRC script. Before you tried to steal something and chopped it up to a buggy mess.
that is not flaming that is me stating my opinions, and facts. and the fact i will not kiss no ones ass no matter what.
if you need me to show you what flaming is then i will. since you ppl seem to think anything negative is flaming.
you want flaming look at every post oxi has made on the board for my site, every last one of them is slanderous and lies, yeah i am a scam.........whatever
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No that was not flaming.
But you had many many times before.
And you were banned for cussing in that thread.
Enigma saw i t as the last straw i suppose.
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LOL sabbie are you a freaky gal ;D ;D
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Would you have a problem hiring me back or does Enigma's ruling stand with you?
I really dont think that would solve any of the problems. They need a few people capable of filtering out the scam, they do not need even more spam ???
A little harsh don't you think? I did my job well, and I think that's why I mod on about 6 or 7 sites now.
I know the scams, I can see them, I'm not stupid. And every time I made reference to my site, I had a valid point.
Why don't you go bother someone else sabbie? I've heard from a few people that you're a freak anyways.
LOL u made assloads of harsh comments towards ptctalk, why r u asking to go back?..they basicly said your not welcome, we all brought that upon ourselves because i thought its what we wanted, i know its what i wanted LOL i dont ever want to go back to that place!!! ;D ;D
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i don't want to go back either, but i think i have the right to stand up for my own site. instead of letting a 14 yr old kill my business post by post.
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LOL u made assloads of harsh comments towards ptctalk, why r u asking to go back?..they basicly said your not welcome, we all brought that upon ourselves because i thought its what we wanted, i know its what i wanted LOL i dont ever want to go back to that place!!! ;D ;D
Same here. I think we have made ourselves a better forum 8).
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LOL sabbie are you a freaky gal ;D ;D
Definitely, aren't we all ;D land of the freaky and banned :D or is it the freaky banned ???
A little harsh don't you think? I did my job well, and I think that's why I mod on about 6 or 7 sites now.
I know the scams, I can see them, I'm not stupid. And every time I made reference to my site, I had a valid point.
Why don't you go bother someone else sabbie? I've heard from a few people that you're a freak anyways.
Nope don't think so :D you did a great job of spamming. hope you did just as well on all 7 sites ;D ah, come to think of it, nope you didnt do that cause your small site is still just that, small :D
Didnt the majority of the scam start joining ptctalk while you were a mod? you could have stopped them right away but you were too busy doing 'other' things :D
Valid point?? do you know the meaning? someone says i cashed out and you reply "i hope someone on my site will cashout soon' very valid :D congrats would have been enough ;)
Very pleased you personally don't think i am freaky. Hear say is great but i prefer to leave that up to people who can't think for themselves ;D
Say hi to peotz when you talk to him :D
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:o thats harsher then i get
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i don't want to go back either, but i think i have the right to stand up for my own site. instead of letting a 14 yr old kill my business post by post.
i can definitely agree there, they sit over there and make up BS stories for all their little underage homies to read >:( so they all think oxi is the f#$%^n POPE or somethin >:(
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i can definitely agree there, they sit over there and make up BS stories for all their little underage homies to read >:( so they all think oxi is the f#$%^n POPE or somethin >:(
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D LMAO I cant stop laughin
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Well acapulco, when I was 15 I ran a coding business/online game.
I netted probably $5,000 in about a years time.
So technically it is thousands.
But we started AdverCash when I was 17, I am now 18.
So I believe I could answer yes to both statements.
Also, who do you have in mind Micro?
How about someone that can actually help, maby Tri or lenon.
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i don't want to go back either, but i think i have the right to stand up for my own site. instead of letting a 14 yr old kill my business post by post.
i can definitely agree there, they sit over there and make up BS stories for all their little underage homies to read >:( so they all think oxi is the f#$%^n POPE or somethin >:(
Yeah but he's so incapable of hacking though according to Cronus. Yet he did, his IP's were traced and found to have hacked a few places.
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You realize oxi uses AOL right?
Which means he has a rotating IP address.
O_o
Also micro, they are mods on bux I don't think they would have time.
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his school does not use AOL quit defending him, i have his IP and he ain't on aol, he is on cable so just get a life, this shit protecting someone guilty is really bugging me, and right now as far as i am concerned as long as you try to protect him your just as bad as him.
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No he's not on AOL, he's using a British ISP and I've informed them of his hack attempts.
All of the IP's I got traced to said ISP. Some traced to another ISP, and the last one traced to his school.
So, what does that tell you?
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How exactly did he "hack" you?
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I think Twysted can reply to that one since Oxi hacked into my Clickzvault account.
Anyways, forget my request for mod, after what I just read over there, I really hate your bulshit, and all the bulshit from the scammers there.
Simplestash is still down, I haven't gone anywhere at all,
nor do I plan to go anywhere. I plan on having Simplestash up
very soon, and if anyone doesn't want to continue with it, I have
no problem deleting accounts.
There is no vacation, much to Oxi's dismay, I'm not a scammer like
a lot of site owners, especially like some who claim to have made
thousands from scamming users.
To ivy: Don't make assumptions. Yours will be the first account to
go if you continue to do so. You have any problems, visit the forum
MY forum and discuss it there. I have many users who can tell you
that we're working very hard on getting the site running again.
Oxi, you had the audacity to try to charge me $80 per month for hosting
which is bul*****, and I didn't stand for it.
You all talk behind my back like I am a scammer, you know what? I'm
glad I was banned, it shows how immature some people on PTCtalk are.
My site has some very loyal users who would come here and beat you
all into the dust with their support. They have stuck by me
throughout all of this, including all the problems that have plagued
Simplestash.
Simplestash was supposed to go live on Monday but we've hit another
bump in the road. If everything goes to plan, it will be open, under
relaunch, in full mode, not beta as it originally opened.
It will be better than anyone could or would ever imagine.
When it comes back, I'll be laughing at those who harpooned me, and
placed me into the same shark infested waters as those scam site
owners you've all come to love to hate.
Simplestash will grow to epic proportions and leave other sites in
the dust.
The first couple of months were rocky, but Simplestash was only in
beta mode, a test mode if you will to see how it would fare. The
real problem was in the script, it was horrible. It's not surprising
that I've never seen this script anywhere else, it's not popular,
nor is it any good. The script got me booted off the server I was
on due to exessive resource usage, and as a result, banned ALL PTC
sites from ever hosting with it.
The site was not created to my specifications, the claim was that
my specifications were useless, they had no benefits to them. When
the site screwed up the day of launch, Oxi said he was too busy to
fix it. I have all of our messenger conversations saved for proof.
He screwed me from day 1.
Anyways, instead of rambling on and on, which I've already done
enough of, I'm going to finish by saying, if you're a loyal user
of Simplestash, post on my forum that you're going to stay active.
If you're not loyal, then your account will be deleted as I don't
have time to waste on users who don't care about being a part of
a reliable, legit site."
Cronus, I don't think you can delete this, and it's also on my forum, so everyone knows I'm NOT A SCAMMER like people are trying to say.
See the Simplestash thread for an important update.
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Honestly I wouldnt expect anything different from everyone on ptctalk.
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How exactly did he "hack" you?
simple, see when CV first came out it used his script, so after he ripped me off i booted off the site moved to a new sever and started coding a new site. i completely coded a whole new site, thus eliminating his backdoors.
the only person's that know of the backdoors was me and him. i didn't tell anyone about them. the day her account got hacked i had in my logs several attempts to each said backdoor, none of them worked. he tried SQL injections on the areas he knew (on the original script) that didn't have security so it was easy to take over. none of those worked so then he flooded my server.
i traced the ip's used which not by a coincidence where the same ones i have logged him using when him an i were friends.
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I expect nothing less from the mods at PTCtalk, and sure enough the fools deleted the message that Alex posted for me, go figure.
They can't handle the truth.
PTCtalk IS a scam no doubt. They allow badmouthing to go on even though they claim not to, and true to life, they believe Oxi and allow his shit post to remain up, yet delete the 2 that I had Alex post for me.
I hope someone finds a way to bring them down.
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could always use a 302 redirect glitch i know of to steal all traffic
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That would be fun :D
Since no one can bring them down and they refuse to clean up their act, something needs to be done.
I know some kids who act more grown up than some of the people on that forum, it's disgraceful.
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could always use a 302 redirect glitch i know of to steal all traffic
Tell me more ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D
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http://clsc.net/research/google-302-page-hijack.htm
http://www.seoconsultants.com/articles/1000/pagejacking.asp
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If its not illegal lets do it ;D ;D ;D
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any forum that allows underage kids to operate is a SCAM
THE END >:( >:(
but this conversation matters not anymore i think, every day that gos by and that forum is still open the more damage gets done to titan network image ;D ;D
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Hmm, so lets make their sites redirect to pages full of viruses. Maybe Oxi's sites too huh?
It would serve them right for promoting scams and for supporting underaged drinking, erm, I mean underage illegal business, lol.
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I think that we can now consider any administrator or moderator of ptctalk a spammer and they should not be allowed to visit or view our forum because we dont allow spammers.
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i will not be supporting PTCTalk any as everytime i try to visit i see this
An Error Has Occurred!
Sorry Twysted, you are banned from using this forum!
You have proven that you will never stop acting like a child. The ban has been changed to a permanent status. You are no longer welcome at PTC Talk, ever.
I stand by what i said and i ment it. and should not be punished because someone doesn't like my opinion so they call it childish.....being banned for that, now thats just plain immature.
yes I ALSO GOT THE MESSAGE OF "GOOD RIDDENS STALKING BUTLER YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO SCAM ANYONE ANYMORE"
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF SUCH NONSENSE
AFTER I SAVED ALL THOSE LITTLE WHINING F$%IN BABIES FROM GETTING SCAMMED SO MANY TIMES
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yeah thats is pure bullshit
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http://clsc.net/research/google-302-page-hijack.htm
http://www.seoconsultants.com/articles/1000/pagejacking.asp
blackhat SEO..... ;D i have been readin up in another forum somewhere on the internet about this,.... ;D
very experienced people there too..... ;) ;D
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if it is blackhat it holds my attention if it is whitehat it can suck on my left ^@#
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This may be a bit off-topic but....
As for velocity, they banned poetz's IP before he even joined.
And before poetz even joined Velocity he was banned, strange.
To Cronus: This poetz character was not banned from Velocity clicks. To tell you the truth, I have been browsing PTCtalk forums ever since one of my members mentioned it to me but never bothered signing up. And I certainly WILL NOT now after seeing one of my innocent members get banned for accidentally posting a ref link to VC. Even after he edited that out he was still banned.
Anyways, I've seen poetz post that he has been banned from VC but where is the proof? We haven't IP banned anyone unless poetz is from China and was using an autoclicker on VC :P A member of mine asked him to post some proof or even come to contact me about the issue and I saw poetz post that he wouldn't bother. Hey is this another so called "proof" then?
This shows exactly how biased your community is. They honor the high posters and the moderators/staff and anything they say is automatically true. The 15 page thread claiming that I was icashout site had the word "CONFIRMED" in the thread title. Confirmed? Confirmed of what? All the person posted was a few lines of text with no backup evidence whatsoever and that's called confirmed? It took him more than a whole day and only about 8-9 pages after the thread he decided to post a screenshot which is most likely edited, judging the poor quality of the screenshot. And yeah, he did take $16 out of me when I tried to purchase an ad from him.
So that's another point that shows how biased your community is. Also, the immaturity level on PTCTalk is unreasonable. If any real professional marketing or online business were to take a look, they would probably think that PTCTalk is a joke, which reflects horribly on you.
Some of the people you have in that community is utter bullshit and should be removed entirely. It's as if they work together, scratching each other's backs because in that 15 page thread about VC all I see is the same few people bashing on VC and on any member who's defending us. Something needs to be done by you guys if you want to remain as a PTC forum. If not, it's going to turn into garbage, you might as well put a joke of the day or some other lame kiddy bullshit because it really wouldn't make a difference seeing the status you're in right now.
Also they use the word "lol" a lot in their emails, just as iCashout did.
I didn't know that "lol" was so uncommon! If you're putting this into context you might as well declare the use of "lol" ILLEGAL.
And recently one of our members posted a payment he got from Velocity, and it had iCashout's owner's name in the transaction.
Although this was just a copy/paste so it can't really be verified.
But it was from paidclicks.ws(i think that is the name).
Just by looking at that website (paidclicks.ws) makes me ill. That site looks like it was designed by some 4 year old and it is evident that it's just another poor bux clone.
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umm they don't honor all high posters, i was a high poster.
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My mistake then, but it sure is evident that there is a small group of people on that forum who's dedicated in spreading false rumours and bashing on the newbies.
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My mistake then, but it sure is evident that there is a small group of people on that forum who's dedicated in spreading false rumours and bashing on the newbies.
One name comes to mind. Peotz! ;D
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My mistake then, but it sure is evident that there is a small group of people on that forum who's dedicated in spreading false rumours and bashing on the newbies.
One name comes to mind. poetz! ;D
Most of the high poster have left ptctalk simply because they were fed up with all the spam and scam being posted there.
Whats left is a funny referal exchange and downline builder:D
Poetz mostly spams fines but after about 3 months of being a member at few ptc sites he does think he is the Great All Knowing.
His totally stupid opinion based on absolutely no facts is final. No appeal possible. :D
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Anyways, their accusations barely had any impact on VC. I also just noticed we're on a watchlist on PTCTalk. Not sure when we got there but cool. Apparently the person who designed my website also designed the same site for icashout? ???
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Actually they have designed quite a few well known websites. I believe some of them are bux3, clixncash, and clicksia. ::) ::)
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Their watchlist and scamlist can be overrated.
They'd better take Simplestash off the watchlist if it's there because the site just reopened a few minutes ago.
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They will probably leave it on because it seems they have a personal grudge against you. Thats how their site is operated. If you dont suck up to Enigma or Cronus they consider you a scam.
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Weren't you guys originally respected members of the PTCTalk community? What did you guys do to make them ban you? I read somewhere on PTCTalk a few weeks ago that "stalkingbutler" (i think that's stalky on this forum, right?) supposedly left PTCTalk and requested the account be deleted.
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Yeah he left, then he returned a couple of times I think and was banned.
They called me immature and short of calling me a bitch, basically called me one.
I don't suck up to scammers like those children, so they don't want me there.
I don't side with scammers either, especially that immature one Oxi. He's a lying asshole who claims he made $30,000 in freelancing graphics, and says he has cousins who are millionaires. What a liar.
They're stupid if they think I'm going to fall into that trap.
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Weren't you guys originally respected members of the PTCTalk community? What did you guys do to make them ban you? I read somewhere on PTCTalk a few weeks ago that "stalkingbutler" (i think that's stalky on this forum, right?) supposedly left PTCTalk and requested the account be deleted.
that is correct i was the highest poster there, i was there since like day freakin 2 of that forum being born,.....and im fed up with what it has become(a daycare center for cheaters ;D )
stalky says its time to grab the bull by the horns.....
yes i cussed every last one of thoses NOOBS out in a fiery storm and demanded they delete my account...
i do not want my name associated with their lies and scandals anymore..
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I was second highest when they banned me.
Guess they really didn't like us because we talked alot too.
Down with the scammers.
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and i was banned they say for cussing but i know it's for not kissing ass and for standing up against all the shit they were slinbging about my site, my site had the top listing for payment proofs, and was 6th on the top 10 list.
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Wow, that's some first class bullshit for you guys. I simply don't want to register on that forum simple because seeing all the immature posts being made.. even on the thread that supposedly "CONFIRMED" that VC is related to icashout scams. I see so much off-topic and simply immature behaviour on that thread, specially the one by the name of "Assault".
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yeah alot of them are really two faced
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Putz.
They are so immature. I'm glad I don't bother with them. They even ban proxies.
"sorry guest you are banned from using this forum"
wanna bet?
That's the message I get when I try to use some proxy sites.
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lol i can still see all the lies over there just fine horse... ;D
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Yep me too. They cant stop me from exposing their #*$@ lies 8).
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You're not IP banned?
Or you've got a proxy they didn't ban yet.
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You're not IP banned?
Or you've got a proxy they didn't ban yet.
they think im IP banned, ill let them keep thinking that ;D
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I don't want to register so they don't get my IP at all, this way I can continue browser without the risk of being IP banned just because I am the owner of VC.
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Lol, good one Stalky. You've always got an ace up your sleeve. :o
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its strange, sometimes i am banned, however sometimes im not, i dont have dynamic IP, but my brother did something that does make the IP change back and forth periodicly, idk im not a technical person when it comes to computers,..however he builds them and develops software applications...
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sounds like it's a bouncing setup
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Wow, it figures that PTC Talk is way off with their absurd assumptions again ... members are claiming that the admin of VelocityClicks created this forum. ::) :D
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Wow, it figures that PTC Talk is way off with their absurd assumptions again ... members are claiming that the admin of VelocityClicks created this forum. ::) :D
LMFAO!!!!!!! i can definitely confirm,...that VC did not create this forum.... ;D
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Wow, it figures that PTC Talk is way off with their absurd assumptions again ... members are claiming that the admin of VelocityClicks created this forum. ::) :D
LMFAO!!!!!!! i can definitely confirm,...that VC did not create this forum.... ;D
Lol it just means that PTCtalk is considering Talkptc as a threat to themselves,The vc admin is a member here but he didnot create the forum.
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Lol, there goes another one by PTCTalkShit
And look at this, http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=ct0of9d0bj9dp619sip7ge8mk6&topic=8139.0
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That's just bullshit, but that's sure a bunch of noobs posting that shit.
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that guy is in one of the banned countries,..i think malaysia....he definitely speaks chinese... ::) ::)
he translated some words i had on my site a while ago...thats when he admitted where he was from and he speaks and reads chinese..
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Yep, looked him up in my database and hes from Malaysia. I'm considering them as a part of China since they're pretty much the same group anyways.
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Serves him right.
But what about the one complaint from the guy who said you stole refs? He had 80 now he only has 30?
Honestly, I'd chalk that up to pruning inactives or cheaters, they considering it stealing.
Go figure.
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Serves him right.
But what about the one complaint from the guy who said you stole refs? He had 80 now he only has 30?
Honestly, I'd chalk that up to pruning inactives or cheaters, they considering it stealing.
Go figure.
people need to understand this...referrals are expendable,...they will be pruned and deleted whennecessary,...if you are going to rely on just your referrals and be mad every time something bad happens with them,..then you should just leave PTC right now...LOL
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Exactly, and I know that. I lost about 20-30 referrals last time Twysted pruned his userlist, but I wasn't worried, I knew it would happen. It's expected, but some people still want to cry scam over every little thing.
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Exactly, and I know that. I lost about 20-30 referrals last time Twysted pruned his userlist, but I wasn't worried, I knew it would happen. It's expected, but some people still want to cry scam over every little thing.
yep , hit the nail right on the head, i know all the people i refer arent going to stay there, everyone is referring several cheater, bot users, or hackers or general troublemakers,...its common sense,..i mean damn cronus has absolutely taken every single person i referred to their sites,..i have none left,..did you see me getting genuinely upset over that?? no, in fact you can see how we made a humorous topic about it,...but i still think he was wrong for doing it after only 50 days..you know i had several that just used the sites to advertise ::) and they didnt really click ::) and im sorry but it does happen,..people go dormant,..and then they come back ,..i do it all the time,..on about 100 different sites...
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Lol.
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PTCTalk thinks VC started this forum LMAO :D :D.
I believe the url you all are looking for is
http://velocity-forums.com/
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Lol. Time to put PTCtalk in its place.
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Okay you all are saying PTCTalk is backing all these accusations.
You are simply wrong. As stated in the TOS, PTCTalk does not take confidence in anything our users post, unless said so by Cronus or Enigma.
I know VelocityClicks didn't start this forum, I'm not stupid I've been here reading.
Why would I claim that it was when we all know it isn't?
Just because some of our users say something doesn't mean we agree on it.
I do think velocityclicks is a scam, especially because of the proof posted.
If you don't believe it, fine, but that is what I believe and MANY others do also.
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Blah, blah, blah.
That's all I hear when you talk Cronus.
Are you sure you're 18?
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im done on this topic, if they want to let kids and scammers and cheaters, autoclickers, hackers,and the scum of ptc run amuck in there forum ....then whatever,...they bringin themselves down..
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Blah, blah, blah.
That's all I hear when you talk Cronus.
Are you sure you're 18?
Obviously I'm the immature one in this conversation....
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Blah, blah, blah.
That's all I hear when you talk Cronus.
Are you sure you're 18?
Obviously I'm the immature one in this conversation....
You said it, I didn't, which makes it true.
I think I'm going to screenshot this and post it in a few places to show how immature you really are.
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LoL okay. ;)
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(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u86/kris182_2000/immaturecronus.jpg)
There's the proof, forever plastered all over the place. 8)
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I do think velocityclicks is a scam, especially because of the proof posted.
If you don't believe it, fine, but that is what I believe and MANY others do also.
That just directly contridicts what you just posted.
Okay you all are saying PTCTalk is backing all these accusations.
You are simply wrong.
In the SAME post.
And really, you call that proof? That's just some sleazy screen shot probably edited on adobe or something. This is exactly what I'm talking about, one guy simple makes a post claiming something with almost no solid proof whatsoever and the whole forum including you mods and admins agree to it. What I saw was a few lines of text posted on the first post on the thread that was suppose to "CONFIRM" that VC is a scam.
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Well considering the payment came from you, and the name was Eric Lew, I would say it stands.
And whether you say it was edited or not, I looked over it many times and found no signs of editing.
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I know some people on your forum are stupid but maybe this guy wasn't stupid enough to leave any "evidence of editing." I also want to point out that it's not even difficult to edit the screenshot taken from AlertPay. Someone on your forum in that thread already demostrated that.
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I have no knowledge of editing so I wouldn't really know.
But the fact that vc has the same "layout designer" as iCashout and the same trends, along with this screenshot, makes me(and many others) believe it is iCashout on their next venture.
Unless there is some proof otherwise this is what I am inclined to believe.
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what do you mean by same layout designer? Our site was designed by someone from diffusionstudios.com, they're experts in the AuroraGPT scripts. I looked at their portfolio they also designed some other sites too.. (Clicksia), so that doesn't make sense for you to even try to piece VC and icashout scam together using that fact. Or maybe you just need to get your own facts straight first, just as much as the most of the members on PTCTalk.
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Yea because we would be stupid enough to put "AdverCash has hacked your account." as the item title.
Point taken, but like I said there are other things that have lead me to believe this as well.
As you can see we do not have velocity on the scam list yet(i don't think so anyways, I didn't put it there).
It's only on the watchlist because of the findings we have.
Until it scams someone, or we receive more proof, it will stay there.
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Well I'm fine with being on the watchlist, it doesn't bother me but just make sure if anyone does decide to say that we're scammers, make damn sure that what evidence they're providing is solid, not just some half assed comment by some child, or else you're only degrading PTCTalk even more. Please take this into account and consideration and I will appreciate it.
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Ok just trying to let you know that even if vc was icashout (not saying that he is) he would not be stupid enough to put the name of the icashout owner.
Good point there, lol
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Problem with that is, if he wanted to be verified on AlertPay, he would have to.
You have to send in ID verification and such.
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Hiya Cronus,
Since we are on the topic of discussing image proofs. Look at what I found lurking on the net.
(http://www.upload.mn/download.php?file=w9vsb6j375ax1lg96aba.jpg)
::) ::) ::) Guess advercash better go on your scamlist now.
i can tell that was edited. see i am a designer so i know the differance between edited and not edited. you have to have the eye. unless you do GFX you don't have the eye.
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Well, I can tell that screenshot is saved in poor quality JPEG. But if people are dumb enough (which most of PTCTalk are) will probably easily fall for a trick like that.
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Blah, blah, blah.
That's all I hear when you talk Cronus.
Are you sure you're 18?
Obviously I'm the immature one in this conversation....
maturity has nothing to do with this forum.
this forum is freedom of speech. i don't care about how mature anyone is.
I care how old everyone is, and until you ppl get that through your thick skulls at PTC Talk then it will be a never ending fight.
for instance i am 26. do i have to act 26? hell no, i am past 21 therefore i can act however i feel like acting, i have earned it.
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it was a good example
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I have no knowledge of editing so I wouldn't really know.
But the fact that vc has the same "layout designer" as iCashout and the same trends, along with this screenshot, makes me(and many others) believe it is iCashout on their next venture.
Unless there is some proof otherwise this is what I am inclined to believe.
Clicksia also used the same designer, does that mean they are also iCashout?
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the designer of clicksais is the creator of auroraGPT
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Clicksia does not look anything like velocity or the iCashout sites.
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Clicksia does not look anything like velocity or the iCashout sites.
http://www.diffusionstudios.com/index.php?view=portfolio
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Uh oh, better put those sites on your watchlist. :o :o
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Clicksia does not look anything like velocity or the iCashout sites.
Yeah, but you brought up the fact that it's the same designer which leads you into believing we're the same sites?
Oh, I also took notice that that is the exact reason why we're on your watchlist. You better fix it up either by putting a better reason or put some of those sites listed in DiffusionStudios' portfolio on to your almighty watchlist too.
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I have no knowledge of editing so I wouldn't really know.
But the fact that vc has the same "layout designer" as iCashout and the same trends, along with this screenshot, makes me(and many others) believe it is iCashout on their next venture.
Unless there is some proof otherwise this is what I am inclined to believe.
Clicksia also used the same designer, does that mean they are also iCashout?
if that were the case then why is icashout not in their portfolio? i can tell you why. it's not the same designer. you can see a differance in style.
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Anyone have a screenshot of how icashout site looks like?
EDIT: I looked icashout.com and icashout.net, I think it's icashout.net since the .com looks more like a blog to me. correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyways, domaintools show a screenshot of icashout.net which is probably cached.
http://whois.domaintools.com/icashout.net
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It was ..net, and yes that is the design.
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Hey Cronus.
A perfect example of why PTCTalk looks so bad right now.
Quote Assault from PtcTalk.com/forums
screenies would be cool Cheesy even though i already velive you i want them to ban my IP so badly ill put them to shame for it Cheesy
Is this contributive to the PTC industry or the internet at all? Something immature like this is a perfect example of why and how your forum is such a mess right now. People like them need to be cleaned out and pick up their acts. Really, that post barely contributes to the accusation itself!
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What he says has nothing to do with the "PTCTalk View".
He is a forum member, he posted it.
If you think he is wrong, sign up and tell him yourself.
I' would unban you just to go through and tell people what's up.
But you won't because you "don't want to be involved with PTCTalk".
This is exactly why PTCTalk is the way it is, no one stands up.
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thats because those of us that did stand up got banned.
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What he says has nothing to do with the "PTCTalk View".
He is a forum member, he posted it.
If you think he is wrong, sign up and tell him yourself.
I' would unban you just to go through and tell people what's up.
But you won't because you "don't want to be involved with PTCTalk".
This is exactly why PTCTalk is the way it is, no one stands up.
You as an admin should stand up yourself and straighten things out. You do have all the authority and power to do so on your own forums.
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What he says has nothing to do with the "PTCTalk View".
He is a forum member, he posted it.
If you think he is wrong, sign up and tell him yourself.
I' would unban you just to go through and tell people what's up.
But you won't because you "don't want to be involved with PTCTalk".
This is exactly why PTCTalk is the way it is, no one stands up.
You as an admin should stand up yourself and straighten things out. You do have all the authority and power to do so on your own forums.
Yeah thats exactly what you are supposed to do.
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Wrong again, PTCTalk is a discussion board.
People discuss what they believe, and decide based on everyones responses.
If I just go through with the "I'm the admin, you're wrong, don't post anymore", then that defeats the purpose.
If you want it changed go in and tell them whats what, I am not going to be the one to do it.
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well thats what enigma did to me so what are you saying then?
your words are contradicting your actions
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Enigma banned you before I had anything to do with PTCTalk.
I was only a moderator, it was not my decision.
He banned you because of your cursing, he only said scamming to piss you off.
Obviously it worked, but nonetheless he told me that was why.
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You just don't get it,
You can only tell kids so many times, and its not going to change anything, because of their immaturity
level. Its that cocky age where they THINK they know everything.
And the Not so funny part is they know what they are doing, They Taunt people thinking its funny.
And you are right, You can't banned anyone from having there own Opinion, but you can control the situation,
By locking the topic when You see them starting there crap, will save others from finally saying they have had enough and exploding, that is what your job is supposed to be.
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Funny, the day Twysted was banned, Cronus HAD brief admin status, I remember that. I found it amusing. It was also around the time Enigma pulled his cheap ass act and fired me as a mod, claiming that I was siding with the scammer(Twysted), and not sticking up for the true scammer(Oxi).
Oxi, BTW, attempted to hack into my domain yesterday. He knows where my domain is hosted, and his hack attempt was blocked.
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It is not a problem when everyone else has the same opinions.
In those posts EVERYONE agrees on the same thing, so I can't claim it false.
If someone were to actually put up a good argument against it, perhaps I could.
Also horselover, I was not admin when Twysted was banned, I was a mod.
Enigma told me he wanted to ban twysted for his cursing and immaturity around the forum.
Also I don't care about your quarrels with oxidation. Take it up with him, it's really not my fault.
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I think you're afraid of us. Is that why you're hidden when you're here?
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If I was afraid would I be posting?
I'll go change my hidden status thing.
I think I must have clicked it when I was inserting my info.
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Lol.
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ok thats enough between you to i am tired of the bickering, just forget it or argue in pm cause this back and forth shit is getting on my nerves.
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What, I just laughed. I just thought it funny that he's hidden.
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i know i am not talking about that, i am talkin about the argueing, can't change the past no point in arguing over it.
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Yeah true, but I'm still pissed off.
I'm not usually one to hold a grudge, but this takes the cake for me.
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Maybe we should lock this topic now, cause the arguments keep on going back and forth? ;)
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Up to you, you're the boss. :)
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Ha ha, moved with no rules. Me likes 8) 8)
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Yep another great suggestion by Twysted.
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Thanks Twysted.
We can now continue to hash it out. ::) ::)
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i really dont understand why people smite tutul all the time, he shows a great mind as he proves in this post i happened to 'accidentally' copy and paste.
@peotz
It's easy to copy and paste "thesis" from websites if you are not of the caliber to make it yourself from your own knowledge and merit.But only few key points are enough,no need to waste huge space of a forum by blind coping and pasting thru mouse drags and clicks..i know what is hypocracy,no need to submit an epic..
I had read some of your topics and replies that suggested that you are quite immature and mentally unstable,you had used weired English like "I r hte cutest" or " I r hte coolest" although your English was already incorrect or from immature hands...
Also you had tried to hide your ugly appearance under the photo of albs..but you are nowhere near the intelligence,caliber and mature mentality of albs .Also you addressed me in the past as "stalky" or "stalker" (that's stalkbutler) several times although albs had corrected you that "tutul is not stalker or stalky",didn't you?
Those things signify your mental instability,lack of IQ,caliber and your immature head on an elder shoulder..
I had known earlier that you smited me many times,so you are already in my red-list of my smiters,will you tell me pls how many times you had smited me?,(if you are brave enough)?,although i don't bother it.
Hope you are clear now and seeing yourself in my "mirror"..
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At first, I used to have the opposite opinion of tutul, but now I agree with you.
Before I was banned, I saw him change his attitude for the best, and started to change his karma rating to a more positive one, but you can only do so much when you can only change it once every 3 hours.
But I did try.
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he started to change once i had unbanned him from my site and showed everyone just how pathetic his attempts to ellude me were