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Title: isabelmarco.com
Post by: isabelmarcos moneymaker on February 27, 2008, 02:20:03 PM

Hello members off talkptc.
I am the proud owner of a new website.

Isabelmarco's Moneymaker.
I know I have allready some members from talkptc.
I see they like it.
Come and have a look at my site.
Looking to have my site at No1 in the top ten !!

http://www.isabelmarco.com (http://www.isabelmarco.com)
(http://www.isabelmarco.com/banners/isabelmovi.gif)

Title: isabelmarco.com
Post by: StalkingButler the III on February 27, 2008, 02:23:50 PM

Hello members off talkptc.
I am the proud owner of a new website.

Isabelmarco's Moneymaker.
I know I have allready some members from talkptc.
I see they like it.
Come and have a look at my site.
Looking to have my site at No1 in the top ten !!

http://www.isabelmarco.com (http://www.isabelmarco.com)
(http://www.isabelmarco.com/banners/isabelmovi.gif)



welcome aboard IsabelMarco, i see acapulcogold420 was successful in giving his invite to you for our forum here.  ;)  glad to have you here for sure ;D ;D thank you for  making your presence ;) :)
Title: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on February 27, 2008, 09:49:01 PM
Hi IsabelMarco welcome to the forum.

Congrats on making your first payout. i hope it will be the first of many ;D

I joined yesterday and so far I definitely like it.  great to see you so active in the live chat and on the forum.

I really think you will be in the top10 very soon ;D

nogmaals welkom en bedankt voor het accepteren van de uitndodiging ;)
Title: isabelmarco.com
Post by: isabelmarcos moneymaker on February 28, 2008, 10:20:06 AM
Hello everybody,

this looks a great side !
I will visit this forum as much as I can.....have a lot of work with my PTC, its growing fast.
Wish you all a lot of succes !!

Het is ook aangenaam om hier Nederlanders en Belgen tegen te komen.
Ik woon namelijk ver van jullie vandaan.
Groetjes aan alle Belgen en Nederlanders en npg veel succes !!

Isabelmarco

http://www.isabelmarco.com (http://www.isabelmarco.com)
(http://www.isabelmarco.com/banners/isabelmovi.gif)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Twysted on February 28, 2008, 07:34:25 PM
i don't know how you make any money with your prices being so expensive
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: StalkingButler the III on February 28, 2008, 07:38:13 PM
i don't know how you make any money with your prices being so expensive

hell thats cheap compared to most other bux style sites  ;D other mofos want freakin 15 dollars for 1000 measly hits
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Founder on February 28, 2008, 07:40:08 PM
Yeah I bought a couple of referrals already  ;D.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Twysted on February 28, 2008, 07:47:49 PM
my prices are cheaper then that and i don't get no sales........
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on February 28, 2008, 07:57:39 PM
my prices are cheaper then that and i don't get no sales........

HUH ???

isabelmarco:
 500 visits     $ 3.00
1000 visits     $ 5.50
2000 visits     $10.50

Your site:  :D
 100 visits    $3.50
 500 visits    $6.00
1200 visits   $9.00
  
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Twysted on February 28, 2008, 08:27:21 PM
thats redemption prices not cash prices
Title: isabelmarco's
Post by: ragnarok1992 on February 29, 2008, 08:02:15 PM
The site has closed off referral earnings and soon it might turn into a scam. info got from the following threads:
http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=150.msg4268#new
http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=602.msg4268#new
Adds to click: (5/5)
20 guranteed adds per day to click that pay $0.01 each.This amount of adds can easily make one reach the payout.It covers up for the unavailability of the paid offers or any other type of adds.

Support: (5/5)
Forum is available, contact us page and FAQ page is also available and there is also a live chat.

Referral earnings:
60% referral earning for free members.

Advertising rates: (3/5)
1000 click adds for only $5.5 that is considered cheap compared to the bux site standards but the down point is no option for signup adds, banner adds and other such types of adds.

Payouts: (4/5)
there are proofs of payments available at the forum.the minimum for the payments is $9 through alertpay.The payments according to the proofs are fast.The reasons for the 1 point low rating is simple not many cashout options.
NEWS:They will no longer pay asian members unless they are upgraded members.


Overall rating: 4.1/5

Personal experience:
The site seemed great though when i first went to it i felt that it was some type of a ptc blog created by an earner before finding that its a ptc.The clicks are nice and pay well.There are some places where instead of alertpay paypal is written.The offers section confuses as one thinks that they are signup offers and goes there to find that there are site upgrade special and stuff.The site is nice and is a must join for people who really want to earn.


WARNING:no matter how great a site is it can still turn into a scam so join at own risk.

To Join: join the site in the downline builder or go with this link http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=108.0

lets make the downline builder more populated.

Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on March 01, 2008, 09:48:07 PM
The site seems to be down... 

***EDIT*** It's back.  :P
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Speedstar on March 03, 2008, 12:24:11 PM
i do hope this site will be big in the long run... this is the #1 site i'm trying to get most referrals on..
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Catclicks on March 04, 2008, 05:15:55 PM
Yea, Me to, I think this site is going to be Awesome.
Its a breath of fresh Air, from all the Drama of the other sites
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sstashowner on March 04, 2008, 05:59:09 PM
I like it.  To make over 50 cents in 2 days with one referral, it looks to be a good earner.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on March 04, 2008, 06:04:49 PM
I like it.  To make over 50 cents in 2 days with one referral, it looks to be a good earner.

Yes, it is  :D
I also like their multilanguage feature
I wish them all the best: that's ours as well.  ;)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sstashowner on March 04, 2008, 06:11:02 PM
Yeah I noticed the multi language thing.  That's definitely a good thing.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Catclicks on March 04, 2008, 06:50:15 PM
I agree, I can only count to 10 in spanish  ;D
they are making it nice for everybody...
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Titan on March 06, 2008, 04:01:44 AM
I just bought a pack of 15 refs and premium for a month. I hope I did the right thing. :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sim-value on March 06, 2008, 10:37:34 AM
From their FAQ :
Quote
How do I get paid?
If you have the minimum amount accumulated, you can click on your account balance within your stats area and it will submit your request. Currently, we only make payments via Alertpay. We will soon be using other methods of payment.

When do I get paid?
You can request for payment once you're account balance is the minimum amount accumulated. Your payment will be processed and issued via Alertpay within 25 business days or less.

What is PayPal?
PayPal is the payment processing solution that we use to pay members. Your PayPal address is the e-mail address you use to register with Alertpay.
Not saying they are scam but its still kinda poor ....
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on March 06, 2008, 03:13:39 PM
From their FAQ :
Quote
How do I get paid?
If you have the minimum amount accumulated, you can click on your account balance within your stats area and it will submit your request. Currently, we only make payments via Alertpay. We will soon be using other methods of payment.

When do I get paid?
You can request for payment once you're account balance is the minimum amount accumulated. Your payment will be processed and issued via Alertpay within 25 business days or less.

What is PayPal?
PayPal is the payment processing solution that we use to pay members. Your PayPal address is the e-mail address you use to register with Alertpay.
Not saying they are scam but its still kinda poor ....

Most important thing is TOS, and it's correctly written. I sent them a ticket to change the FAQs anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Titan on March 07, 2008, 03:50:48 AM
Well I bought them and got them today, all my refs have over 10+ clicks! :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on March 07, 2008, 04:59:32 AM
Well I bought them and got them today, all my refs have over 10+ clicks! :D

Nice one. With such an ammount of ads, members generally stay active.  ;)

P.S. Sites, normally, don't  :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: philipwong123 on March 07, 2008, 09:58:04 PM
Wow....
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on March 07, 2008, 10:13:27 PM
P.S. Sites, normally, don't  :D

 ::)

I wonder if Vipbux.com is owned by them as well...
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on March 08, 2008, 02:31:14 AM

I wonder if Vipbux.com is owned by them as well...

i have been wondering the same thing, it sure looks like it ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: ragnarok1992 on March 13, 2008, 03:07:29 PM


Yeah the site is nice but one never knows when a site is about to go.The site is becoming really popular this makes their excuse abt being too busy seem true.The future will tell us what happens all we can do is wait and watch.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on March 14, 2008, 03:56:25 PM
i just had to share this, it made my day.   ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: isabelma
Hello dear members,
Yes jsingh has been banned today as member of Isabelmarco's Moneymaker.

Reason : Was using more then 10 different IP's and some accounts of refs of him with emails like this 123@321.com, don't exist .
I paid him out allready one time but it will be the last time.

So be warned , no mercy with cheaters.

I want to protect myself and also my members from this people.

Greetings and succes,

Isabelmarco
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Rich Greenback on March 14, 2008, 07:47:45 PM
i just had to share this, it made my day.   ;D ;D ;D

Thanks for sharing that ... it made my day as well!   ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: StalkingButler the III on March 14, 2008, 08:37:00 PM
mine too LOL!
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on March 23, 2008, 03:26:57 PM
isabelmarco is having problems with referals. 

The referal link wasn't working but he/she got it fixed

now the links works but the refs are disappearing anyway :'(
they are in your downline one day and gone the next

isabelmarco is aware of the problem and looking into it but please stop all advertising until this issue is fixed ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: StalkingButler the III on March 23, 2008, 04:35:43 PM
damn....
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Twysted on March 23, 2008, 08:11:58 PM
things don't just break. doesn't work that way with scripts.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: StalkingButler the III on March 23, 2008, 08:35:49 PM
things don't just break. doesn't work that way with scripts.

lol... ;) ..... ;D ... :-X ..naughty isabel
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Twysted on March 23, 2008, 09:52:35 PM
things don't just break. doesn't work that way with scripts.

lol... ;) ..... ;D ... :-X ..naughty isabel
lol yeah it either works or it doesn't.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: StalkingButler the III on March 23, 2008, 10:09:01 PM
things don't just break. doesn't work that way with scripts.

lol... ;) ..... ;D ... :-X ..naughty isabel
lol yeah it either works or it doesn't.

yes i think ill agree with you here,...if it worked fine before the only reason it wouldnt work now  is because admin has modified that part of the script  ;) sounds fishy to me.....
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Founder on March 23, 2008, 11:05:19 PM
Im guessing they are running out of money fast  :P.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on March 24, 2008, 02:12:30 AM
this reminds me of site not long ago turned out to be a scam.............
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on March 24, 2008, 02:18:29 AM
All this just shows it's nonsense to trust unsustainable sites.

 >:(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on March 30, 2008, 09:46:05 AM
Isabel decided to completely change her rules today :'( 
Where does she think she is going to get all these referals to sell  ??? Does she think there is no limit to the amount of referals she can get by advertising her own link ;) or is she too going to sell the same referals over and over again :'(

I would suggest nobody buy referals here.  :'(
 

New !! from today (30 march)there is no more refering ! You can invest (buying ref packs)to earn more money! We will also increase our payments per ad you read !You'll get paid $0.012 ($0,017 for premium) for each website you personally view and $0.007 ($0,013 for premium) for each website your referrals view.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Twysted on March 30, 2008, 10:39:46 AM
moved to watch list for obvious reasons
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on March 30, 2008, 10:41:01 AM
Could even be moved to "Sites to stay away from"...   ;) Don't think there's much to watch anymore, lol  :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on March 30, 2008, 07:37:42 PM
ya she wants to sell refs since there are some people that refer without buying any refs  :(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on March 31, 2008, 03:39:28 PM
ya she wants to sell refs since there are some people that refer without buying any refs  :(

her wanting to sell the refs is not the problem.  the problem is she doesnt have the refs to sell :'(
any member advertising isabelmarcos is going to pull the ads because the referals won't end up in their downline.

Why would i want to advertise for referals if they will not end up in my downline.  i won't advertise just so isabel can sell me my own referals. :'(

today she has 3 packs of 15 and 5 packs of 5 referals for sale.  She will earn a total of  $107.50 from referal sales.
This a long way from what the increase in referal earnings is going to cost her.

How does she plan to make up the difference ???
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: StalkingButler the III on April 02, 2008, 02:01:16 PM
more i think about this she is a FUCKIN SCAMMER....

lets look at the happenings....

1 -  members notice the referral links arent working.... >:(

2 - referrals start disappearing.... >:(

3 - changes terms to no referring only purchasing.... >:(

this equals PLANNED OUT   >:( >:(

she made sure to steal a bunch from people and then change her terms

  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: tn on April 02, 2008, 03:10:43 PM
Asian users have to upgrade to get pay?  I happend to work in an Asian country.

Where do I get the money to get pay when I don't even get pay by any sites yet?   :'(
Title: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: BRL on April 03, 2008, 05:16:24 PM
Payment received form IsabelMarco, ironicly a few days after also receiving a threatening letter from them because I informed about their referral "problem" and the unsustainability of the program:

(http://www.paytoclick.eu/objetos/proofs/isabelmarco.jpg)

Noobs, keep investing. Friends, stay away.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on April 03, 2008, 05:18:52 PM
more i think about this she is a FUCKIN SCAMMER....

lets look at the happenings....

1 -  members notice the referral links arent working.... >:(

2 - referrals start disappearing.... >:(

3 - changes terms to no referring only purchasing.... >:(

this equals PLANNED OUT   >:( >:(

she made sure to steal a bunch from people and then change her terms

  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(



I received a threatening letter from them because I informed about their problem (but just quoting their info from their site), and mentioning the unsustainability of this program.  ;)

P.S. Stalky, I can send you a copy  ;)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Dennis on April 03, 2008, 06:19:22 PM
They keep changing their terms weekly, not something I would invest into :-\
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: jetje37 on April 03, 2008, 07:47:13 PM
more i think about this she is a FUCKIN SCAMMER....

lets look at the happenings....

1 -  members notice the referral links arent working.... >:(

2 - referrals start disappearing.... >:(

3 - changes terms to no referring only purchasing.... >:(

this equals PLANNED OUT   >:( >:(

she made sure to steal a bunch from people and then change her terms

  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(



I received a threatening letter from them because I informed about their problem (but just quoting their info from their site), and mentioning the unsustainability of this program.  ;)

P.S. Stalky, I can send you a copy  ;)

Can't you post a copy of that letter here? I'm very curious
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: hardcoreimpulse on April 03, 2008, 10:50:31 PM
more i think about this she is a FUCKIN SCAMMER....

lets look at the happenings....

1 -  members notice the referral links arent working.... >:(

2 - referrals start disappearing.... >:(

3 - changes terms to no referring only purchasing.... >:(

this equals PLANNED OUT   >:( >:(

she made sure to steal a bunch from people and then change her terms

  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(



I received a threatening letter from them because I informed about their problem (but just quoting their info from their site), and mentioning the unsustainability of this program.  ;)

P.S. Stalky, I can send you a copy  ;)

Can't you post a copy of that letter here? I'm very curious
ya bro me too pls post
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: sabbie on April 03, 2008, 11:05:00 PM
Noobs, keep investing. Friends, stay away.

congrats??

i want to be your friend, not exactly a noob but i will stay away, i hate being told i have to buy if i want referals :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Shaunalynn on April 05, 2008, 12:00:48 AM
more i think about this she is a FUCKIN SCAMMER....

lets look at the happenings....

1 -  members notice the referral links arent working.... >:(

2 - referrals start disappearing.... >:(

3 - changes terms to no referring only purchasing.... >:(

this equals PLANNED OUT   >:( >:(

she made sure to steal a bunch from people and then change her terms

  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(



I received a threatening letter from them because I informed about their problem (but just quoting their info from their site), and mentioning the unsustainability of this program.  ;)

P.S. Stalky, I can send you a copy  ;)

Can't you post a copy of that letter here? I'm very curious
ya bro me too pls post


Me too. I want to see that letter. If you can't post it here - email it to me, please...

--E-mail address removed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mail_address_harvesting)--

Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: Shaunalynn on April 05, 2008, 12:10:43 AM
so at what point do you determine this site to be a scam?  I'm still clicking, but I'm not buying any refs.
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: ragnarok1992 on April 05, 2008, 01:24:57 AM
If u are amongst those who would consider the site that steals refs and then sells to people to make money a scam then yes it is a scam.I personally thought of this PTC as a scam when they stopped paying asian users unless they were upgraded since it seemed to me like the PTC was just trying to earn money from the great asain population that joined it.

If u are amongst the stupid ones who will wait to see if a site turns into a scam and then are slapped by the site owners who runs away with 1000s of $ then its not a scam for u.

Even if the site does not shutdown in a month or two they are labeled as referral stealers who are playing cheap tricks to earn money.
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: BRL on April 05, 2008, 02:04:59 AM
And it's fully useless to label a site as scam after it disappears... So you are all at time now, don't complain later on if you decide to invest there...  ;)  ::)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on April 05, 2008, 02:14:47 AM
I will not post it here, I trust Stalky, and that's why I would send it to him.

By the way, ShaunaLynn, you better remove your e-mail address from this thread (and never post it on any forums), just an advice...  ;)
Title: Isabelmarco scam ?
Post by: isabelmarcos moneymaker on April 09, 2008, 01:12:06 AM
Well there are always people who are just looking at the bad sides.
I am not angry on you folks but if you don't like Isabelmarco's Moneymaker then its better not to be a member

We only want happy members !

We had a lot of problems , and we are getting out off them now.
Growing steady,paying out in time, a lot off ads...

What you want more?

Isabelmarco
Title: Re: Isabelmarco scam ?
Post by: StalkingButler the III on April 09, 2008, 01:29:27 AM
Well there are always people who are just looking at the bad sides.
I am not angry on you folks but if you don't like Isabelmarco's Moneymaker then its better not to be a member

We only want happy members !

We had a lot of problems , and we are getting out off them now.
Growing steady,paying out in time, a lot off ads...

What you want more?

Isabelmarco

well how about this....how about a mass email which SHOULD HAVE BEEN SENT LONG TIME AGO about no more referring you know how many people are still in the dark about this and have many ads floating around with their reflinks to which thery arent getting anything from?? ??? ???

only about 3% of ptc memebrs even venture into their forums  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Isabelmarco scam ?
Post by: wojadann on April 09, 2008, 06:02:39 PM
Well there are always people who are just looking at the bad sides.
I am not angry on you folks but if you don't like Isabelmarco's Moneymaker then its better not to be a member

We only want happy members !

We had a lot of problems , and we are getting out off them now.
Growing steady,paying out in time, a lot off ads...

What you want more?

Isabelmarco

I would like to be a happy user - I'll see "payment on time" for about 30 next days (I have no referrals and clicking alone so I need those 30 days to reach minimum)....
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: belgium21 on April 12, 2008, 02:29:50 AM
this seems like an honest site, with a lot of payement proof. Maybe I'll invest in this one. Also like the international look of it.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on April 12, 2008, 10:39:39 PM
invest in it lol goodluck on getting ur cash
Title: Re: Isabelmarco scam ?
Post by: wojadann on April 13, 2008, 10:14:14 PM
Well there are always people who are just looking at the bad sides.
I am not angry on you folks but if you don't like Isabelmarco's Moneymaker then its better not to be a member

We only want happy members !

We had a lot of problems , and we are getting out off them now.
Growing steady,paying out in time, a lot off ads...

What you want more?

Isabelmarco

I would like to be a happy user - I'll see "payment on time" for about 30 next days (I have no referrals and clicking alone so I need those 30 days to reach minimum)....

It sems to be more than 30 days to reach minimum - I can't login >:(
Interesting, isn't it?

And now I can log in ;D - isabelmarco, what are you playing?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on April 14, 2008, 09:47:30 AM
isabelmarco says the 'referal bug' is fixed.   we are allowed to refer again :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: wojadann on April 14, 2008, 09:40:00 PM
This site is horrible - after 2-5 clicks there is message "Internal server error blablabla.." - I think it will be more than 3 months to catch those money ;D ;D ;D
Referrals?? For this site?? Never!
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: pablod on April 14, 2008, 11:37:33 PM
I must say, I haven't had performance problems with Isabelmarco so far,
but something ain't correct today...
Just after the referring was "reactivated" again yesterday
(or changing of the script, as Sabby mentioned...)



Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: fidelcastro on April 21, 2008, 02:54:19 PM
Well... you got paid.. so they are NOT a SCAM...
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: ragnarok1992 on April 21, 2008, 03:31:53 PM
Well... you got paid.. so they are NOT a SCAM...
Not exactly, there are many sites that pay the first few people and when they get a large amount of money collected they leave with all the noobs crying "i got scammed lets have a pitty party"
In case of isabelmarcos they might be or might not be a scam but if they are they seem to be planning to run with more than a few thousands.
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: look2earn on April 21, 2008, 09:51:31 PM
congrate bro

ya isabelmarco one of the best site right now

Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: BlackThursday on April 21, 2008, 10:03:58 PM
congrate bro

ya isabelmarco one of the best site right now



LOL
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: LadyLuca on April 21, 2008, 10:48:59 PM
*****From today (April 13) you can refer again*****
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: rikkot on April 22, 2008, 07:35:02 PM
I know you keep saying Isabelmarco is unsustainable and all.

Yes, they pay much more than the cost per click.

But so is the videogame industry for example. They sell you the console cheap so they make the money on game purchases
So is the printer industry. They give you the printer for almost free so they can make money on ink purchases.

I only have positive things about the site.
It paid me three times so far, before the dates stipulated in the TOS.
Support was always there for me. Instant replies, live chat.
Way better than a lot of those self-righteous perfect sites.

They have paid over $13000! It's probably more than many long time sites that have more members than them.
That's a very expensive "scam" to run, I think.

I sort of get their strategy.
Give a good deal now, attract a lot of members and advertisers. Then once you reach a critical mass, start increasing the ad prices.
It becomes a premium product.
The money goes into the site though ref purchases, memberships, banners, and other external revenue sources.

Don't we see this with many new businesses? Introductory offers, buy now and pay in 90 days?

And you all bitch about the ref link. Ok, since I am one of the first hundred members there, I had begged for the ref link to be locked
because some a**holes delete the ref when they join. They tried to do that and that's when it broke down. At least that's the dialogue I was having with them when the whole crisis happened. But then, since cheaters couldn't self-refer, things got better and payments became a bit faster

Here are a couple of reasons why I personally don't feel scammed by them

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6056/screenhunter12apr221431jv6.gif)


Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: minoui on April 26, 2008, 07:45:37 AM
 ::)
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: Rich Greenback on April 26, 2008, 02:14:56 PM
But so is the videogame industry for example. They sell you the console cheap so they make the money on game purchases
So is the printer industry. They give you the printer for almost free so they can make money on ink purchases.

And in the world of casinos, they often give away free trips (most, if not all, expenses paid) to Vegas or other destinations so that they can make money off of those who inevitably gamble.   ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: BRL on May 02, 2008, 06:06:00 AM
I know you keep saying Isabelmarco is unsustainable and all.

Yes, they pay much more than the cost per click.


Ehm... PTC "industry" is based on making revenue (owners and members) from ADVERTISING.

But so is the videogame industry for example. They sell you the console cheap so they make the money on game purchases
So is the printer industry. They give you the printer for almost free so they can make money on ink purchases.

Those examples have nothing to do with IsabelMarcosUpsetMemberMaker: those companies DON'T PAY their customers (they actually MAKE MONEY constantly).

I only have positive things about the site.
It paid me three times so far, before the dates stipulated in the TOS.
Support was always there for me. Instant replies, live chat.
Way better than a lot of those self-righteous perfect sites.

Sure. That's because you did not write about them telling the truth... Yeah, I also got paid, but that will not make me blind and loose my honesty.

They have paid over $13000! It's probably more than many long time sites that have more members than them.
That's a very expensive "scam" to run, I think.

Sorry, but that's not right, it's completely false, actually, if you mean stable PTC sites that are running now: just check their numbers...

I sort of get their strategy.
Give a good deal now, attract a lot of members and advertisers. Then once you reach a critical mass, start increasing the ad prices.
It becomes a premium product.
The money goes into the site though ref purchases, memberships, banners, and other external revenue sources.

You forgot the most important thing: ALL the purchases made during this time will CERTAINLY make the owners pay higher sums if they continue online.

Don't we see this with many new businesses? Introductory offers, buy now and pay in 90 days?

NO.

And you all bitch about the ref link. Ok, since I am one of the first hundred members there, I had begged for the ref link to be locked
because some a**holes delete the ref when they join. They tried to do that and that's when it broke down. At least that's the dialogue I was having with them when the whole crisis happened. But then, since cheaters couldn't self-refer, things got better and payments became a bit faster

So you mean they told you that the script "changed itself" because people deleted their referrer?  ::)  :-X

Here are a couple of reasons why I personally don't feel scammed by them

(http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6056/screenhunter12apr221431jv6.gif)

I already said what I had to.
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: rikkot on May 06, 2008, 06:26:10 AM
No Problem, BRL.

I respect your opinion and I really like your site. I use your info to decide what sites to trust.

Meanwhile, My fourth payment was received 22 days after I requested it (April 7 2008):
(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/747/isabelmarcop4apapr29200ic3.png)
(http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/5489/isabelmarcop4apr292008zr3.png)

Cheers.
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: tn on May 06, 2008, 06:46:27 AM
congrats to those got paid.
Are u all upgraded members?

I'm still waiting for my $9 since 4th April, and it's 6th of May now.
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: BRL on May 06, 2008, 09:17:59 AM
No Problem, BRL.

I respect your opinion and I really like your site. I use your info to decide what sites to trust.

Meanwhile, My fourth payment was received 22 days after I requested it

Hey, thanks rikkot  :), sorry if I've been harsh, I just got pissed off with them after I received a threatening e-mail, turning into something personal.  :-\

By the way, congratz for your payment.  ;)
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: rikkot on May 09, 2008, 08:51:07 PM
Hi BRL,

I am not offended by your convictions. In fact I agree with you. I wish the PTC industry was only funded by clicks.
Linkgrand is like that. I click everyday and... in three months I am at $2!! Minimum payout is $5. 
Yayclick tried to be like that and where is that site today?

I totally understand your concerns about Isabelmarco. It does look unsustainable on paper.
But, the admins are quick to answer to problems, they keep is informed of problems and they are quick to fix problems.
But they're not your typical college kid with a site to make a few bucks and run. This is their main job.
Just try to find *real* complaints  of non-payment, of abused, etc from people who are honest members.
Pretty hard to find. And cheaters are dealt with and banned.
Because the site is trusted, people keep onl clicking, so purchase refs there are a great investment.
I am a mod in their forum. I am over 30, so I am not some kid having fun. I am doing this for the money!

BTW I read that email, because the admins and I exchange emails every now and again.
He was offended because his business is built on having a solid reputation and having someone blacklisting his site with no solid proof would tarnish his reputation.

Anyway, try clicking at Isablemarco. If you don't believe in investing, purchasing refs, etc, don't worry. Just do the vanilla clicks and you will get paid again, 40 days after you reach $9. Just the fact that you got paid after the email you received shows that the admin knows how to keep things separate and only deny payments to bots, autoclickers and multiple account holders.

Tn, Payments at Isabelmarco are received 40 calendar days after request for non-premium and 20 calendar days for premium.
Title: Re: Payment from IsabelMarco, and no, I'm not posting on a wrong board!
Post by: kupidooo on May 14, 2008, 11:56:54 PM
well nice disscution lets wait and see what happen to isablmarco

i,m already a member there

didn,t reach my payout yet

wish the site will be there when i reach my payout

cause i got scammed many times before and lose alll my refs

the PTC industry suck this days

and the scammers r more than the honest people

so who knows lets give it a try

Have a very nice PTC day
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: soul_master on May 25, 2008, 05:23:31 PM
i'm from asia and i think there must be reason for them to do that.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: cdiamond22 on June 18, 2008, 08:21:46 PM
I have been using Isablemarco.com for the past week and was hoping to buy referrals. It looks like a legit site, moreso than many others which look oddly similar. Anyway I just wanted to see if anyone else had had problems with isabelmarco recently.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 18, 2008, 09:12:19 PM
well am in it got paid 3 times till now i dont think isabel site should be in this forum i think in the specify ptc sites cuz no complaints from members that are there
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on June 18, 2008, 10:08:51 PM
well am in it got paid 3 times till now i dont think isabel site should be in this forum i think in the specify ptc sites cuz no complaints from members that are there

You want a complain?

I posted a few about them, more than enough to be included on the watchlist, and even in the "sites to stay away from" board...  ;)

 ::)

Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 19, 2008, 07:49:58 AM
I am waiting for my first payment we'll see if I get it on time. I am really curious how did they manage to jump from 90k to 270k users in a matter of 5 weeks.   
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 19, 2008, 01:07:45 PM
ya johnny i noticed that is that possible?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: bos130979 on June 19, 2008, 02:51:53 PM
I ahd my 1. Payout Yesterday on IM!!
On Time in 20 Days I am Premium!
Next Payout is Pending
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Jake99 on June 19, 2008, 03:18:34 PM
I can't be bothered to read 5 pages of thread to find out why this site is in here but why is it here? :P

I got paid earlier and have never heard any complaints about this site. Took 32 days I think (so about 1 month) when the TOS states 40 days for standard members.

I bought 15 refs earlier too. :)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: askaninja on June 19, 2008, 03:33:18 PM
I can't be bothered to read 5 pages of thread to find out why this site is in here but why is it here? :P

you only have to read one of the pages to get an idea,.,,page 2  ;)  ;)

stalkman made a nice summary of those suspicious activities

lets look at the happenings....

1 -  members notice the referral links arent working.... >:(

2 - referrals start disappearing.... >:(

3 - changes terms to no referring only purchasing.... >:(

this equals PLANNED OUT   >:( >:(

she made sure to steal a bunch from people and then change her terms

  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on June 19, 2008, 09:31:30 PM
I am waiting for my first payment we'll see if I get it on time. I am really curious how did they manage to jump from 90k to 270k users in a matter of 5 weeks.   

http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=195.msg10062#msg10062 (http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=195.msg10062#msg10062)

 ;)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 20, 2008, 05:22:38 AM
I am waiting for my first payment we'll see if I get it on time. I am really curious how did they manage to jump from 90k to 270k users in a matter of 5 weeks.   

http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=195.msg10062#msg10062 (http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=195.msg10062#msg10062)

 ;)
And another thing maybe I don't understand the way Alexa rank doing their ranking.
Bux site A has 270k users and it's Alexa rank is 9,835. Bux site B has 96k users and it's Alexa rank is 8,887. Bux site C has 112k users and 8,714 Alexa rank. That looks really weird.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: scamsniffer on June 20, 2008, 05:31:07 AM
Once again, listen to BRL he knows what hes talking about
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on June 20, 2008, 10:47:23 PM
keeping track here:

http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=1972.0
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on June 20, 2008, 11:09:01 PM
keeping track here:

http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=1972.0

OUCH!

and if anyone tries to argue about the obvious that is happening here( massive selling of imaginary bots), then you truly know nothing and have no business investing in sites at all
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 20, 2008, 11:54:24 PM
keeping track here:

http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=1972.0

OUCH!

and if anyone tries to argue about the obvious that is happening here( massive selling of imaginary bots), then you truly know nothing and have no business investing in sites at all

10k users in less than 24 hours "people" tooo eager to join bux sites
90k users in 3 months and then 200k more in 1 month. If you add to that their low Alexa rank for that amount of users, the fact they have very active "refs" somehow and the fact the stats not being updated instantly.
It's all clear..
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 21, 2008, 02:52:53 AM
i want to ask ptc bots like how do they work, doesnt use any internet resources or something, do they stay alive or inactivate after a certain time never really knew whats bots are someone please explain a bit

thnx!!
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on June 21, 2008, 03:03:42 AM
i want to ask ptc bots like how do they work, doesnt use any internet resources or something, do they stay alive or inactivate after a certain time never really knew whats bots are someone please explain a bit

thnx!!

PTC websites are just lines of code, meaning those characters you see on your screen when you check your stats can be altered in any order/way, all what an admin needs is an algorithm that creates x-number of users and the corresponding names, and also make a random and decreasing average of actions (clicks).

 :-X
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 21, 2008, 02:03:07 PM
but if u got many people buying bots does the admin have to change the stats for all these members manually and daily?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 21, 2008, 03:50:04 PM
but if u got many people buying bots does the admin have to change the stats for all these members manually and daily?
It's probably done automatically by the script. It's just numbers shouldn't be too hard to program something like this. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Jake99 on June 21, 2008, 04:08:34 PM
I bought refs and was slightly suspicious when many were a word / name followed by a number.

As long as I get paid my original investment (and hopefully more), I couldn't care less if they're bots or real tbh. :P
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 21, 2008, 05:39:06 PM
thnx for the help


hmmm my refs used to click alot now only like 2 click now weird
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 21, 2008, 05:50:42 PM
thnx for the help


hmmm my refs used to click alot now only like 2 click now weird
Nothing weird here they just switched them off
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 21, 2008, 05:53:17 PM
but why?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 21, 2008, 06:04:26 PM
but why?
So you won't earn from these bots anymore. When a bux site selling you bots they turn them off whenever they want they can't do that when you have real human refs. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 21, 2008, 10:01:29 PM
http://isabelmarco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28633#28633
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on June 21, 2008, 10:06:14 PM
http://isabelmarco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=28633#28633


lol....amazing how many people are still clueless to the whole bux/fake bot era......
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on June 22, 2008, 06:50:01 AM

Quote from: isabelma
I wrote this already to a lot off members.

We looked in our database and erased already more then 3000 members with 0 clicks. can you imagine .

I will give you an example here
we have around 1000 refs with Bux.to : earnings now : 4$/ day
we have around  600 refs with  Bux3 : earnings now :  10.5 $/ day
and every day its less.

Don't ask me why people stop clicking after some days or weeks, because we  don't understand it ourself.
We have now nearly 300.000 members........members with more then 15 days inactivity :  100.000,   incredible
And we sended mails to all inactive ones.

Our advise : you need to reinvest a part off the money you earned and so your gainings will stay on the same level or even higher.

A lot off members buy refs and then think they are safe for ever and don't invest anymore, well thats wrong you can see it here by yourself

We do all what is possible to keep members coming to our site
But its not easy.

Good luck to you all

Isabelmarco
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 22, 2008, 06:58:17 AM
Thats fuckin joke people must be crazy to believe that crap. I was making $4 per day a week ago and now it's down to $1. I can't believe I bought these refs   :'( :'(
At least I hope they'll pay me so I can get my money back. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on June 22, 2008, 09:16:04 AM
Quote from: isabelma
No not only inactive , also a lot who couldn't  or can't enter our web anymore

But what can we do at it ?

We checked already many times the updates everything works fine.
Even checked the refs but if they don't have clicks then the referer hasn't neither.

By the way we checked also a lot off members who invested a lot and they have earned already a lot more then they invested,

I know everybody wants to earn as much as possible and we do our best so that everybody can reach a good gain.

Isabelmarco
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on June 22, 2008, 10:54:16 AM
.

By the way we checked also a lot off members who invested a lot and they have earned already a lot more then they invested,
Isabelmarco


thats ptc in a nutshell.  never expect to make more than you pay :D

Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on June 22, 2008, 05:50:15 PM
thats ptc in a nutshell.  never expect to make more than you pay :D

Exactly. Those swindlers just admitted their Ponzi scheme needs to be feeded, otherwise it would die...

What a shame, Pierre!  :D

 ::)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Rich Greenback on June 22, 2008, 07:26:31 PM
It seems that cron jobs are becoming nothing more than con jobs anymore.   ;) 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on June 26, 2008, 02:20:18 PM
its so funny everytime theres problems at isabelmarco its just always having to do with something shady they are doing , its never an honest error ever. it does look like they have finally entered the "bux.to" phase  ;D :D

expect to see many many dissapointing stories coming from there  :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on June 26, 2008, 03:41:07 PM
expect to see many many dissapointing stories coming from there  :D

And maybe a few millions of users?  :D  ;D  >:(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 26, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
It's sad that people don't think it's weird that site is suddenly having 10k new users per day. That alone should be a good enough proof for massive bot sales. But no show them all these proofs they still continue acting like greedy buxtards.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on June 26, 2008, 08:21:42 PM
a new forum is great for cleaning the place up.  one click of the delete button and all the  scam, spam and complaints disappear :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on June 26, 2008, 09:24:21 PM
i just found this on isabel forum, is this the beginning of the end :'( :'( :'(

http://isabelmarco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1

(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2363/isabelforumok9.jpg)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on June 26, 2008, 11:22:11 PM
i just found this on isabel forum, is this the beginning of the end :'( :'( :'(

http://isabelmarco.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1

(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/2363/isabelforumok9.jpg)

LMAO!

i wander who that "suspect" was  ;D ;D :D :D :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on June 27, 2008, 06:07:58 AM
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc217/valiumblue/buxtard1.jpg)


 :o :o :o :o :o :o
Lol!
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: askaninja on June 27, 2008, 07:06:26 PM
i wander who that "suspect" was  ;D ;D :D :D :D

lmao :D :D,,.....who oh who could this mysterious suspect be??,,,,,he or she certainly knows how to wreak havoc on the buxtard community ;D ;D,........
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 27, 2008, 09:01:27 PM
hey guys wasnt online for almost 2 days what did i miss?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on June 29, 2008, 05:32:35 AM
hey guys wasnt online for almost 2 days what did i miss?

isabels forum account got hijacked and the individual kept banning her and members from her own forum causing panic

then they came back and hijacked it again like an hour later ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 29, 2008, 10:04:43 AM
Thats real sad all these bux sites hacking makes the whole ptc industry look like a big joke. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 29, 2008, 01:24:44 PM
Thats real sad all these bux sites hacking makes the whole ptc industry look like a big joke. 

people that are pissed off from the ptc industry are probably doing all this hacking or you never know this might be other ptc sites trying to destroy competitors
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 29, 2008, 01:56:27 PM
Thats real sad all these bux sites hacking makes the whole ptc industry look like a big joke. 

people that are pissed off from the ptc industry are probably doing all this hacking or you never know this might be other ptc sites trying to destroy competitors
My point is that the bux scripts totally suck. And every time they are being hacked so easy it just makes the whole industry look bad. If those were real scripts made by real programmers and not lame kids and amateurs  it could be different.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on June 29, 2008, 05:13:57 PM
Thats real sad all these bux sites hacking makes the whole ptc industry look like a big joke. 


i dont believe all these bux sites are being hacked.  90% of them are just lying about it to get out of paying their members :'(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 29, 2008, 06:00:52 PM
Thats real sad all these bux sites hacking makes the whole ptc industry look like a big joke. 


i dont believe all these bux sites are being hacked.  90% of them are just lying about it to get out of paying their members :'(
Oh I am sure many of them are lying about being hacked. But it's also clear bux script is total junk full of bugs.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on June 29, 2008, 08:16:47 PM
written by a 10 year old , i have said this many many times

DO YOU PEOPLE THINK IM JOKING!
??? ??? ???
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on June 29, 2008, 10:47:48 PM
isabel changed tos today :'(  premium members now have to wait 25 days instead of 20 :'( :'(

When do I get paid?
You can request for payment once you're account balance is the minimum amount accumulated. Your payment will be processed and issued via Alertpay or Paypal within 40 days or less, 25 days for Premium members
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on June 29, 2008, 10:54:30 PM
WHAT! no way and standard members still 40 days i think the standard member waiting should be increased not the premium >:(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 30, 2008, 05:32:10 AM
isabel changed tos today :'(  premium members now have to wait 25 days instead of 20 :'( :'(

When do I get paid?
You can request for payment once you're account balance is the minimum amount accumulated. Your payment will be processed and issued via Alertpay or Paypal within 40 days or less, 25 days for Premium members
C R A P
I made my cashout request on the 10th June thats exactly 20 days ago. I bought the monthly premium just so I can get the payment faster and they change it now  >:(
Damn bux sites #$$%%
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on June 30, 2008, 12:50:06 PM
WHAT! no way and standard members still 40 days i think the standard member waiting should be increased not the premium >:(

i can't agree with that, there is absolutely no legit reason why standard or premium waiting times should change.  Whats next?  30 and 60 days?

we are Paid To Click,  its like a job,  would people just accept it if a real life employer said sorry too many employees and changed his terms to payout once every 2 months instead of once a month?

and in this case i dont really mean just isabelmarco, it seems to be happening at a lot of bux sites atm :'(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on June 30, 2008, 03:09:50 PM
i can't agree with that, there is absolutely no legit reason why standard or premium waiting times should change.  Whats next?  30 and 60 days?

Exactly ... there's no legit reason for this.  It's simply another stalling technique when they start to run out of money to pay everyone. 

It doesn't take that long to use the mass pay feature on many payment processors ... you just have to have the money.   ;)
Thats basically the problem bux sites paying high unsustainable rates so they need the time to gather up enough money. I can't compare bux sites to a real job really. They are not doing anything productive I don't expect them to behave like real company that paying you salary. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Rich Greenback on June 30, 2008, 03:13:14 PM
i can't agree with that, there is absolutely no legit reason why standard or premium waiting times should change.  Whats next?  30 and 60 days?

Exactly ... there's no legit reason for this.  It's simply another stalling technique when they start to run out of money to pay everyone (or they just don't want to pay anyone  ;D  :(). 

It doesn't take that long to use the mass pay feature on many payment processors ... you just have to have the money.   ;)

The sites that allow China/Taiwan members and don't have strict anti-cheat measures in place are losing more money to cheaters in addition to any other unsustainable factors with their business model.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: PapaiMark on June 30, 2008, 05:41:46 PM
Think about the other hand.
Isabel spends the day washing the dishes.
Marco goes out to buy cigarettes in the morning and returns at night.
To Manage almost (soon more than) 500K members.

---?---

(couldn´t resist)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 11, 2008, 06:08:00 PM
Here is an interesting mail I received from them. This is what happens when bux sites using PP illegally. I wonder how long will it take PayPal to ban them  ;)

Dear Members,

We notice more and more that paypal rejects or reverses payments without even asking for our permission.
Most of the times this happens on an action or on a suspicious transaction done by the user him self.
Therefor we are going to act more strict on those paypal events, and we will do the following, without hesitation:

-Block the account
-Ban the IP from every server and
-Withdraw any payment made to the user

We are here to serve you all, but we are not here to be scammed ...

Thanks for understanding,

IsabelMarco and Supahfly
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on July 11, 2008, 06:18:27 PM
dont press the link its a phishing link isabel never sent it watch out look at the link before clicking its not the direct link to the forum lol i got another one also saying to change my account password before and the same starting link that starts with kevin....
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 11, 2008, 06:52:12 PM
dont press the link its a phishing link isabel never sent it watch out look at the link before clicking its not the direct link to the forum lol i got another one also saying to change my account password before and the same starting link that starts with kevin....
Who is crazy enough to click links from these spammers anyway. But their real Forum actually has some Kevain in their address. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on July 15, 2008, 10:06:54 PM
WOW :D Total Users   511,426   ??? ???

looks to me like the member count is the only thing still on the rise :'(

refs counts are down by almost 50% and only 6 links a day  :'(

even alexa is showing a definite drop,

so if everythings going down how come the member count is going up ??? ???
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on July 18, 2008, 02:18:05 AM
We are here to serve you all, but we are not here to be scammed ...

IsabelMarco and Supahflybot

Second time I see they make the same mistake...

Here's what they originally wrote:

Quote from: IM & CodeBotBuilder
We are here to scam you all, but we are not here to serve...

 :-X
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 18, 2008, 07:26:37 PM
How about this one Total Paid  $ 269,617.50.
No real advertisers only ptc's advertising. They are not even using simple ways like Offers, Affiliate Programs to generate some extra earnings.
And bunch of these Court Flatters trying to promote this scam site very hard all over Ptc talk.  It's pathetic people are so naive and fall for that crap.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: wstraffic.com on July 18, 2008, 08:47:58 PM
Do they also run vipbux??? My friend just got a payment from isabelmarco (40 days wait) and vipbux (31 days wait).
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 18, 2008, 09:22:39 PM
Do they also run vipbux??? My friend just got a payment from isabelmarco (40 days wait) and vipbux (31 days wait).
I doubt it, they had their own name on the vipbux ref link. They are just trying to harvest themselves refs for this site they do it a lot.  Not much of a way for extra earnings for them cause most of the bux sites they are self promoting just close or it's taking them ages to pay them.
But the site does look similar maybe they are partners in crime.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on July 21, 2008, 05:41:34 PM
today they cancelled all subscription payments  :D

upgrades are still available but have to be renewed every month or bought for a year.

probably 2 reasons for that :D :D

1/ they hope members with a monthly upgrade will prefer a yearly upgrade to save the hassle.
2/ members who joined the first month or so had a $8 a month subscription.  now they have to pay the $9

either way im will make more :D :D :D

edit: seems this only applies to paypal subscriptions
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on July 22, 2008, 09:52:00 PM
Quote
Payout requests Premiums  : 26/06 and 27/06 


Payout requests Free members :  10/06 and 11/06

Payouts will be postponed because Marco's Internet Connection is down for the moment, we will update you soon.
:D :D :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on July 24, 2008, 04:20:31 AM
probably 2 reasons for that :D :D

1/ they hope members with a monthly upgrade will prefer a yearly upgrade to save the hassle.
2/ members who joined the first month or so had a $8 a month subscription.  now they have to pay the $9

None of them...  ;)

It was PayPal.  ;D

Tick tack...
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on July 25, 2008, 01:31:42 PM
i wonder what paypal will make of their new lottery system  :D :D

Quote
When there are no more tickets left, winners will be known.
no mention of how many tickets are supposed to be sold ???

http://winmoney.isabelmarco.com/

Price Per Ticket $ 1.00
1st prize:    $ 50.00
2nd prize:    $ 15.00
3rd prize:    $ 12.00
4th prize:    $ 8.00
5th prize:    $ 5.00

Instructions:
- You can buy as many tickets as you want to.
- When there are no more tickets left, winners will be known.
- Five numbers will be randomly chosen to determine the winners.
- We will pay you the awinning via Paypal or AlertPay ONLY
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on July 25, 2008, 03:37:10 PM
oh boy i cant wait

(http://www.screw-paypal.com/images/evil.gif)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: tragicus on July 25, 2008, 07:42:42 PM
After reading almost all of this thread seems like most of the users here are quite sure that Isabelmarco is a scam, probably they even invested and did not receive any cashout right? My question is why dont you move the site to the scam list then? Should be a no-brainer no?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 25, 2008, 07:56:14 PM
Isabelmarco is a bot selling Ponzi scheme. They are paying for now but that's only cause they need more and more investors buying their bots so they can feed their Ponzi. They manage to sell 20k bots each day using their lil brain washing tactics. 
Maybe it does belong in the sites to stay away from .
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: tragicus on July 25, 2008, 07:58:39 PM
I think if you and indeed almost all the users that posted here know that for a fact i think TalkPTC is doing a disservice to the readers and should move the site to the scam list.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 25, 2008, 08:13:27 PM
You have all the facts you need in this thread. This is the truth about most of the bux sites around.
I am not sure why this site still in the Watchlist. Maybe they'll move it soon.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: PapaiMark on July 25, 2008, 08:34:40 PM
In many foro, bux.2 is a "case", an issue, but not a scam.
Just because he pays 2 or 3 members 6 months delayed...  :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 25, 2008, 08:51:51 PM
Kinda weird watching tragicus blog only payment proofs from Isabelmarco, bux.to, Neobux included.
Payment proofs are not a great way of judging bux sites. They are just fog for the unsuspecting investor  :-\
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: tragicus on July 25, 2008, 09:13:58 PM
Bux.to payment proof i wish! :) You talk about fog. Well i dont know i go to Isabelmarco forum and Neobux forum and i dont see any people saying they are not being paid. I come in here and all i see are complaining and accusations, not actual proof mind you. For instance, i dont want to be the devils advocate (hehe) someone said reffs dissapear, meaning probably that the person doesnt even read the announcements and could be easily refuted. Reffs are deleted from your account if they dont click. In my case i lost some. Not one of them clicked for more than 30 days (in Bux.to i would lose all my reffs, haha). I keep a excel sheet updated.
Another making fun of the recent days isabelmarco did not have internet. Probably dont read the news either. There was a big fire in a ISP central in colombia.
But ok, if Isabelmarco is indeed a ponzi scheme like you say it should be moved to that section and with the proofs to support that of course or else this would become like another ptctalk (down? Probably finish?)and that was not the original idea.

P.s: Oh and I was scammed twice already. Scams usually dont pay on time or at all.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 25, 2008, 10:01:42 PM
If you think Ponzi schemes don't pay on time or at all you have a lot to learn  ;)
We know they are deleting inactive refs. People said many of their bots stopped clicking at the same time not disappeared.   That's just one of the claims in this thread. Another interesting fact that Aurora just mentioned is that their ads gain only 10k clicks per day. Weird thing for a site that has 600k members and such a high "refs" activity.
This Forum is totally different from that full of noobs and scammers Forum called ptctalk. People here been a long time in the ptc world they are not just guessing.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: tragicus on July 25, 2008, 10:06:49 PM
Oh i dont doubt that. Although PTCtalk would probably will say the same about this forum. :)
I also think you probably need more than "some people saying" and "interesting facts" which probably could have technical explanations, before you can classify something as a scam. Ok, fair enough i understand now why it is on the watch list.

P.s: And a bit offtopic but Johnny what about NeoBux? Any reason to be on the defensive?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 25, 2008, 10:14:32 PM
Oh i dont doubt that. Although they would probably will say the same about this forum. :)
They can say whatever they want about this Forum I know ptctalk well enough. Fact is this Forum doesn't let kids, scammers, Bux sites Court Flatters, bux.to fans promote their Ponzi schemes around here. People can speak their mind freely without being attacked by bunch of underage buxtards that don't know what they are talking about. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BlackThursday on July 25, 2008, 11:34:19 PM
Last I checked, I had pretty much exposed IM on PTCtalk to the point where they tried to threaten me with legal action. Stupid fools.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 25, 2008, 11:46:00 PM
Last I checked, I had pretty much exposed IM on PTCtalk to the point where they tried to threaten me with legal action. Stupid fools.
Ye lol that was an amusing thread actually. All these buxtards and Court Flatters trying to protect their lil operation with their stupid excuses.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: tragicus on July 26, 2008, 12:34:53 AM
Any link BlackThursday?

EDIT: Found it.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: PapaiMark on July 26, 2008, 12:48:39 AM
Last I checked, I had pretty much exposed IM on PTCtalk to the point where they tried to threaten me with legal action. Stupid fools.
I have a friend (guess who) that would like to read it too.
Have a link?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 26, 2008, 01:05:46 AM
This one follow the links  ;D
http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=2558.0
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on July 26, 2008, 07:08:43 AM
Aurora just mentioned is that their ads gain only 10k clicks per day.

WHY?

Why do some people still want more proofs?

If they really had 10,000+ new members every day, why is the click count so low? New users use to click at least the first day (LOL).

10,000 - 500,000 = Negative number, so am I. Isabel seems to have another black hole where inorganic/organic matter gets reduced to absolute nothing.

 ::)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on July 26, 2008, 04:21:12 PM
topic at ptctalk gone? give me an error page cannot be displayed :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 26, 2008, 04:46:47 PM
topic at ptctalk gone? give me an error page cannot be displayed :D
No it's just down again as it was yesterday. Maybe they are being attacked by bux.to fans cause they had an argument with them  ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: jetje37 on July 26, 2008, 05:10:35 PM
I don't understand all the fuss about IM. They pay and they pay on time. Weither it is with bot's or real refs, i don't care. As long as i get what i earned.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 26, 2008, 05:13:13 PM
I don't understand all the fuss about IM. They pay and they pay on time. Weither it is with bot's or real refs, i don't care. As long as i get what i earned.
I guess people like supporting illegal Ponzi schemes and taking others money. That's why the whole bux site scheme looks like a big joke.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: jetje37 on July 26, 2008, 05:26:41 PM
I have a little over 150 refs in my downline at IM, and they all have normal usernames. Don't seem BOT's to me.

By the way: i invest in IM like many others do. And when i can make a profit that way i'll continue to do that.
I have no problems with IM at this time.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: stalky on July 26, 2008, 05:34:02 PM
I have a little over 150 refs in my downline at IM, and they all have normal usernames. Don't seem BOT's to me.

By the way: i invest in IM like many others do. And when i can make a profit that way i'll continue to do that.
I have no problems with IM at this time.

you dont have a problem that they are STUPID enough to use paypal for their little gambling pot?  ;D

thats your investment their gambling with, and about 30,000 other peoples money as well,

once paypal catches wind of it ( which im sure they already have  ;D )

kiss that site goodbye
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 26, 2008, 05:35:56 PM
We are not supporting illegal Ponzi schemes around here. And anybody that can't accept or see the facts or has a problem with that can go to ptctalk. They love supporting these ridiculous operations over there.  
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: jetje37 on July 26, 2008, 05:44:56 PM
I am not supporting them. I am simply stating my personal opinion about IM so far.

I am just a regular PTC clicker with zero experience about the legal stuff. I just want to get paid what i earned. That's all.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 26, 2008, 05:50:52 PM
I am not supporting them. I am simply stating my personal opinion about IM so far.

I am just a regular PTC clicker with zero experience about the legal stuff. I just want to get paid what i earned. That's all.
That's why you don't understand the difference between a real ptc and a Ponzi scheme  ;)
That's how people "earn" from Ponzi schemes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyip
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: jetje37 on July 26, 2008, 05:56:49 PM
I am not supporting them. I am simply stating my personal opinion about IM so far.

I am just a regular PTC clicker with zero experience about the legal stuff. I just want to get paid what i earned. That's all.
That's why you don't understand the difference between a real ptc and a Ponzi scheme  ;)
That's how people "earn" from Ponzi schemes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyip

OK, i read it. Not all, but most of it. I understand now.
IM is no PTC site.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on July 26, 2008, 07:20:21 PM
I am not supporting them. I am simply stating my personal opinion about IM so far.

I am just a regular PTC clicker with zero experience about the legal stuff. I just want to get paid what i earned. That's all.

how long do you think they will keep paying you once their 10k 'real' members stop buying the bots??

as long as you and others keep buying the bots they will be able to pay you, once you stop buying the bots, they stop paying :D :'(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 26, 2008, 07:27:42 PM
I am not supporting them. I am simply stating my personal opinion about IM so far.

I am just a regular PTC clicker with zero experience about the legal stuff. I just want to get paid what i earned. That's all.

how long do you think they will keep paying you once their 10k 'real' members stop buying the bots??

as long as you and others keep buying the bots they will be able to pay you, once you stop buying the bots, they stop paying :D :'(
People having problems to understand the facts and this simple truth. I am sorry to say that but that's just greed.
Anybody who's having problem with the facts we present. You should read the terms I posted above. And if they still wanna support Ponzi schemes they can leave this Forum.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Rich Greenback on July 26, 2008, 07:30:29 PM
I am not supporting them. I am simply stating my personal opinion about IM so far.

I am just a regular PTC clicker with zero experience about the legal stuff. I just want to get paid what i earned. That's all.
That's why you don't understand the difference between a real ptc and a Ponzi scheme  ;)
That's how people "earn" from Ponzi schemes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyip

Just to add to the links you have posted here ... this post will take you to another blog that has a clear explanation of the typical characteristics of a Ponzi scheme:  http://talkptc.com/forum/index.php?topic=500.msg4795#msg4795

Here's a quick excerpt from that blog, much of which JohnnyBlack has already mentioned several times ...

Quote
So what, why should I care if a program is a ponzi scheme, as long as I make money?

I will admit that the “so what” attitude was my own attitude for quite a while. I didn’t want to think about the reality. All I could think about was how to make money from these programs. How could I spot when to get in and out fast enough? After all, I was only “investing” what I could afford to lose!

Wake up, people! This is the exact attitude that the scammers are looking for. They want you to make a big spend and re-spends in the hopes of making it out with a profit before they close. They prey on those that are uninformed and only thinking about potential riches from the high ROI.

How many times have you created a spreadsheet about how much you could earn? How many times have you developed a deposit strategy? How many times have you lost more than you earned? How much are you down from the total amount that you pulled from your bank account? How many times have you hit and run programs only to lose in your total balance? How many times have you remained loyal to a program, only to lose in the end? Or are you a referral hound, leading others to become losers?

The bottom line is that you are not “winning” money from the program and/or the program administrator when you are in profit. You are taking money from other HYI players. For every person in the black, there are many more in the red. Do you ever read the sob stories people tell when they lose their “fortune?” If you do, do you think oh how sad that they invested more than they could afford to lose, or do you ever think that the money they lost is in your pocket and other people’s pockets now? While we are running around taking money from each other, administrators take their “cut” and laugh all the way to the bank as they start planning their next scam.

Ponzi schemes are illegal to protect people from the exact greed that drives us all to find “the next big one!” Let’s take a stand and boycott them so that they are the ones suffocating in server, script and advertising costs. Just maybe real programs will step forward and be known when the scammers become dust in the wind. Just maybe real opportunities will shine through the HYI pond.

Just say no to ponzi schemes!
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 26, 2008, 09:27:47 PM
This is a good explanation Rich.
For those that still didn't understand i'll explain it one last time. When somebody supposedly running an investment program and selling imaginary product/investment. He isn't making any real profit from any real business activities. The ads and all the ptc stuff is just a disguise for the real operation going on.  But he can sell you as much as he wants of his imaginary product. So he takes most of the money he received for his imaginary product for himself and the rest he gives/pays to some of the investors that way they spread the word even further about his program. So as long as he got enough investors paying for his imaginary product he keeps paying some of the money he received. When people stop buying his imaginary product or he decides to disappear the Ponzi collapses and all the people that didn't recover their money lose.
And it doesn't matter if his imaginary product is bot refs, banknotes or anything else basically that's how it works. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: liliani on July 27, 2008, 10:50:17 AM
This is a good explanation Rich.
For those that still didn't understand i'll explain it one last time. When somebody supposedly running an investment program and selling imaginary product/investment. He isn't making any real profit from any real business activities. The ads and all the ptc stuff is just a disguise for the real operation going on.  But he can sell you as much as he wants of his imaginary product. So he takes most of the money he received for his imaginary product for himself and the rest he gives/pays to some of the investors that way they spread the word even further about his program. So as long as he got enough investors paying for his imaginary product he keeps paying some of the money he received. When people stop buying his imaginary product or he decides to disappear the Ponzi collapses and all the people that didn't recover their money lose.
And it doesn't matter if his imaginary product is bot refs, banknotes or anything else basically that's how it works. 
These are good explanations. :)
And it's nothing at all that what I expected when I started to make experiences with PTCs.
In the beginning you only imagine the profit you could have with all these $0.01/ref$0.01 sites.
And you think a site is ok when you see payment proofs in their forum.
So you buy refs and so on and so on ...
And you believe some lying site owners and so on and so on ...


I didn't realize how these sites are REALLY making their money.

To be frankly it was a real shock for me when I read the posts in this forum !

I want to thank you Sabbie Stalky JohnnyBlack for sharing your experiences with us.







BTW sry if my english ist not correct I'm working on it
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on July 27, 2008, 03:14:25 PM
This is a good explanation Rich.
For those that still didn't understand i'll explain it one last time. When somebody supposedly running an investment program and selling imaginary product/investment. He isn't making any real profit from any real business activities. The ads and all the ptc stuff is just a disguise for the real operation going on.  But he can sell you as much as he wants of his imaginary product. So he takes most of the money he received for his imaginary product for himself and the rest he gives/pays to some of the investors that way they spread the word even further about his program. So as long as he got enough investors paying for his imaginary product he keeps paying some of the money he received. When people stop buying his imaginary product or he decides to disappear the Ponzi collapses and all the people that didn't recover their money lose.
And it doesn't matter if his imaginary product is bot refs, banknotes or anything else basically that's how it works. 
These are good explanations. :)
And it's nothing at all that what I expected when I started to make experiences with PTCs.
In the beginning you only imagine the profit you could have with all these $0.01/ref$0.01 sites.
And you think a site is ok when you see payment proofs in their forum.
So you buy refs and so on and so on ...
And you believe some lying site owners and so on and so on ...


I didn't realize how these sites are REALLY making their money.

To be frankly it was a real shock for me when I read the posts in this forum !

I want to thank you Sabbie Stalky JohnnyBlack for sharing your experiences with us.







BTW sry if my english ist not correct I'm working on it
What sad is people that don't have enough ptc experience trying to say we don't know what we are talking about. Or don't care being involved in operations like these. Wake up people money doesn't grow on trees in the real world. You are just clicking ads. Real ptc's can't pay these high rates, advertisers not gonna pay these crazy rates so they can show their ads to bots, auto clickers, cheaters, kids, people that can't understand english. With all the crap bux sites doing advertisers don't wanna deal with ptc's at all. It's all cover up by the bux sites to fool people into thinking they actually care about ads.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: petra on August 06, 2008, 03:06:18 PM
Hi Isabel or Marco,
Do you know anything from this? http://devclix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&%20t=130
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on August 06, 2008, 03:40:46 PM
Hi Isabel or Marco,
Do you know anything from this? http://devclix.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&%20t=130
Did you even read the thread  ;D
I doubt it they'll post anything here after we uncovered all the truth about them.
As far as I know he's telling the truth there at least this time. But bux sites shouldn't rely on payments from other bux sites in order to pay their members. That just shows how stupid is their Ponzi operation. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: clancy2 on August 07, 2008, 12:41:12 AM
Did some people just learn the word Ponzi ? All these bux sites have been ponzis all along.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on August 07, 2008, 01:39:36 AM
Did some people just learn the word Ponzi ? All these bux sites have been ponzis all along.

LMAO, it's amazing how quickly people change their mind on PTC world, isn't it?

Ironic.

 ::)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: petra on August 10, 2008, 03:37:58 PM
Thanks your answer isabelmarco.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on August 11, 2008, 12:15:16 AM
advertising and referal prices went up again,  :'( :'(

ads went from $7.90/1000 to $10.50/1000 :'( :'(

referals are now:
5 voor $8.50
15 voor $18.50
35 voor $38
100 voor $106
500 voor $480

they started their own social network :D  http://imfriends.net/
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on August 11, 2008, 12:17:21 AM
No link for the bot factory?

 :'(
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: ptcpolice on August 11, 2008, 03:40:01 AM
  ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on August 11, 2008, 03:57:06 AM
Wth?

ROFL!

 ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: ptrbright on August 13, 2008, 09:50:13 AM
Wow. Well don't say "I told you so." because I know, but months ago my mother invested a substantial amount into IM before we really did any research of Bux sites. She should have been paid over $2000 yesterday but found that she could no longer log in. She has been paid once before, so it's quite obvious the only reason her account was deleted/banned was because they can't pay it. According to their payment date in the forum they're paying the 17th of July now and she requested on the 16th as a premium member. She posted in their support forum early last night and not one moderator has responded. Looks like they're pulling out all the stops now, wouldn't expect this one to last much longer.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BRL on August 13, 2008, 02:38:33 PM
Wow. Well don't say "I told you so." because I know, but months ago my mother invested a substantial amount into IM before we really did any research of Bux sites. She should have been paid over $2000 yesterday but found that she could no longer log in. She has been paid once before, so it's quite obvious the only reason her account was deleted/banned was because they can't pay it. According to their payment date in the forum they're paying the 17th of July now and she requested on the 16th as a premium member. She posted in their support forum early last night and not one moderator has responded. Looks like they're pulling out all the stops now, wouldn't expect this one to last much longer.

I would be very happy if you give us as many details as you can, and also keep us updated.

Thanks.  ;)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on August 13, 2008, 03:20:32 PM
Wow. Well don't say "I told you so." because I know, but months ago my mother invested a substantial amount into IM before we really did any research of Bux sites. She should have been paid over $2000 yesterday but found that she could no longer log in. She has been paid once before, so it's quite obvious the only reason her account was deleted/banned was because they can't pay it. According to their payment date in the forum they're paying the 17th of July now and she requested on the 16th as a premium member. She posted in their support forum early last night and not one moderator has responded. Looks like they're pulling out all the stops now, wouldn't expect this one to last much longer.
You are probably right they are asking for donations for some time now ;D And the payments are already taking longer. I mean come on Total Paid  $ 567,131.51 isn't that clear they have to sale 20k-30k bots daily. The advertising prices not even covering half of what they pay their users. And nobody advertising there anyway, just some of their users convert to ads. 
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: ptrbright on August 13, 2008, 08:55:29 PM
Wow. Well don't say "I told you so." because I know, but months ago my mother invested a substantial amount into IM before we really did any research of Bux sites. She should have been paid over $2000 yesterday but found that she could no longer log in. She has been paid once before, so it's quite obvious the only reason her account was deleted/banned was because they can't pay it. According to their payment date in the forum they're paying the 17th of July now and she requested on the 16th as a premium member. She posted in their support forum early last night and not one moderator has responded. Looks like they're pulling out all the stops now, wouldn't expect this one to last much longer.

I would be very happy if you give us as many details as you can, and also keep us updated.

Thanks.  ;)

I'll be posting a huge thread about this here as well as PTC Talk and in the IM forum under her name for her. It will include proof of how much she's invested into the site as well as proof that her account has been deleted. It's been almost 24 hours now and no one has responded to her thread in the support forum about the issue. Keep watch, and you'll see my post very soon.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on August 14, 2008, 01:39:39 AM
maybe IM thought she was a bot lol IM been deleting alot of "Inactive" bots :D :D
Title: isabelmarco
Post by: payperclicks on August 15, 2008, 01:10:58 PM
Fast expanding! Alertpay and PayPal verified. It will blow your mind!  ;D
Check out my signature  8)






isabelmarco sux, only  pays premium,  sig removed
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: Memb on August 15, 2008, 01:27:11 PM
IsabelMarco is the best, that's true.
Still I'm pretty sure this site will go down within months.  :'(
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: BlackThursday on August 15, 2008, 01:40:28 PM
Hmm. Someone lock this. Last I checked we don't support Bot selling ponzi schemes on this forum.
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: Memb on August 15, 2008, 01:43:41 PM
Usually those bot selling ponzis are good way of making money.
You just have to take the money out before the site enables scam mode.
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: BRL on August 15, 2008, 03:20:35 PM
You just have to take the money out before the site enables scam mode.

Aha.

And when exactly should their members stop clicking/purchasing/being dumb there?

Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: Toycat on August 15, 2008, 03:37:55 PM
when you cashout, You have to wait 40 days, in which  time.... ;)
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: JohnnyBlack on August 15, 2008, 04:10:35 PM
Usually those bot selling ponzis are good way of making money.
You just have to take the money out before the site enables scam mode.
We might aswell rob somebody it's way faster and no investment needed.
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: BRL on August 15, 2008, 04:50:31 PM
We might aswell rob somebody it's way faster and no investment needed.

ROFL!
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: ptrbright on August 15, 2008, 04:52:23 PM
Alright. I was about to lay down some ownage on them but things were cleared up and her account was restored, plus she was paid. But of course that doesn't mean anyone should be less suspicious :P Notice they removed their live support as well.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: JohnnyBlack on August 15, 2008, 05:24:59 PM
Did anybody see they launched some kind of an online text based game called "pimp battle"  ;D
Seems it isn't free to play. 
I guess bot sales are falling behind.
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: Memb on August 15, 2008, 06:59:02 PM
Aha.

And when exactly should their members stop clicking/purchasing/being dumb there?
You'll just have to cashout when you can. Usually new sites pay within few days.
You can look at forums, if there's lot of complaints that's a mark that the site has enabled the scam mode.
If there's now forum, that's a mark of it too.

We might aswell rob somebody it's way faster and no investment needed.
It's riskier. I have never heard that users of these bot selling ponzi sites have gone to prison because they have used it.

I have gotten +1k more from IM than invested, so I'm pretty happy about that.  :)
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: JohnnyBlack on August 15, 2008, 07:11:47 PM
Aha.

And when exactly should their members stop clicking/purchasing/being dumb there?
You'll just have to cashout when you can. Usually new sites pay within few days.
You can look at forums, if there's lot of complaints that's a mark that the site has enabled the scam mode.
If there's now forum, that's a mark of it too.

We might aswell rob somebody it's way faster and no investment needed.
It's riskier. I have never heard that users of these bot selling ponzi sites have gone to prison because they have used it.

I have gotten +1k more from IM than invested, so I'm pretty happy about that.  :)

That's only cause online frauds are much harder for the law to track down. And most of the time they wouldn't bother if it's not a real big operation.
But Ponzi schemes are illegal and anybody who's is supporting these operation's and help these crooks to lure in more unsuspecting investors so together they can take their money is a partner in crime and a criminal. 
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: stalky on August 15, 2008, 10:33:54 PM
just so everyone knows there are individuals that HAVE faced the consequences of running these schemes.

criminally charged and convicted.

all it takes is the wrong crowd of pissed off investors you all.

and if you live in america and you run one of these....pffttt... you are the most vulnerable to criminal charges.

how easy is it for me to get your information and call your local sheriff department?............. ::)

also if i really want to get nasty i will just report you to http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

enough complaints and your info will be all it takes to get federal charges on you

i also not need remind the kiddies around here that our country loves juvenile cases.....yes...our country loves putting your juvee ass on probation or in boot camp and robbing  your parents for money at your own dumbass exspense.

 
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: BRL on August 15, 2008, 10:43:10 PM
just so everyone knows there are individuals that HAVE faced the consequences of running these schemes.

criminally charged and convicted.

all it takes is the wrong crowd of pissed off investors you all.

and if you live in america and you run one of these....pffttt... you are the most vulnerable to criminal charges.

how easy is it for me to get your information and call your local sheriff department?............. ::)

also if i really want to get nasty i will just report you to http://www.ic3.gov/default.aspx

enough complaints and your info will be all it takes to get federal charges on you

i also not need remind the kiddies around here that our country loves juvenile cases.....yes...our country loves putting your juvee ass on probation or in boot camp and robbing  your parents for money at your own dumbass exspense.

 

There's another way to stop such a site and prevent the increase of potential victims of scam, but you need to know where (which country) the administrator/owner is from.

Hint: taxes.  ;)

P.S. Isabot: Spain.
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: JohnnyBlack on August 15, 2008, 10:58:09 PM
I thought Isabot is from Colombia.
It's real funny watching their Alexa rank their traffic is decreasing for 2 months now. And it's down to what it was around April. So who's the noob that gonna tell me they have 1 million real members. 
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: Memb on August 15, 2008, 10:59:32 PM
There's one strange thing I have noticed.
Their email is isabelmarco_colombia@hotmail.com

And here (http://imfriends.net/isabelmarco) it says, that the owner is from Colombia.

So which one is it, Spain or Colombia?  ???

E: Slow.

E2: Wow. I have already gotten 4 smites today. :P
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: BRL on August 15, 2008, 11:07:01 PM
There's one strange thing I have noticed.
Their email is isabelmarco_colombia@hotmail.com

And here (http://imfriends.net/isabelmarco) it says, that the owner is from Colombia.

So which one is it, Spain or Colombia?  ???

E: Slow.

E2: Wow. I have already gotten 4 smites today. :P

That was a subliminal message, since I got a threatening e-mail from them, someone made a great job finding out a name and address.

This all is a bullet I saved, since they said on that message something idiotic like "We know who you are and where you live".

Now it's a paradox.

 ;)


P.S. I don't use to play the smiting game, but I understand why you have been bombed, lol
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: stalky on August 15, 2008, 11:25:04 PM
im the one who hacked into her old forum a while ago

2 ip came up for her account i noticed when i was in her forum database banning her and causing chaos  ;D

one was from columbia, i banned it immediately  ;D

and the other ip which she logged in with to her forum account after i banned her columbia IP was from australia.

i banned it too and then they took the forum down  :D



Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: stalky on August 15, 2008, 11:51:59 PM
P.S. ive stolen lots of free ads from isabel too....that should piss some of you buxtards off real good  :D
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: TechM on August 16, 2008, 04:52:02 AM
Well it definitely is not MiBux as I had that issue and nothing was getting done (things have gone back to normal in the last month though).

I am going to say Extra10/Earn3. They may not pay fast, but they at least are sure to be paid by.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: cnhsat on August 16, 2008, 03:58:55 PM
I tried to find the answer to my question (raised few days ago)

Quote
Site stats:
Total Users 966,898
Total Paid $ 549,130.60
Total Hits 13295781

Your click: $0.01 ($0,015 for premium)
Ref click : $0.007 ($0,01 for premium)
If every member has a ref, then every click costs $0.017 ($0,025 for premium).

a, How many PTC members (average amount) join Isabelmarco (and Neobux) in a day ?
b, Assume all members are upgraded, then
Ads cost = 13295781 * $0,025 = $332394.525

How can they paid $ 549130.60 ?

It's just my doubt. I give no conclusion.

Look forward to hearing your opinions.


But I think I got it now  :D

Aurora just mentioned is that their ads gain only 10k clicks per day.

WHY?

Why do some people still want more proofs?

If they really had 10,000+ new members every day, why is the click count so low? New users use to click at least the first day (LOL).

10,000 - 500,000 = Negative number, so am I. Isabel seems to have another black hole where inorganic/organic matter gets reduced to absolute nothing.

 ::)

Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: montan on August 17, 2008, 01:41:34 PM
i'm from asia and i think there must be reason for them to do that.

yeah , they don`t have to much time to count the money ..come on that site is a total waste of time and money.
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: clancy2 on August 18, 2008, 04:34:45 PM
Only site to have paid me  :)
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: mjomha on August 21, 2008, 06:02:56 PM
lol IM has over a million members looks like its turning into the next bux.to :D :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: stalky on August 24, 2008, 10:08:56 AM
ponzi paradise is what i call it now, with all the little ponzi banners on both sides of the site

what a disgusting cesspool of scams ;D ;D ;D

isabel should be the official spokesman for ptctalk
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Ark on August 27, 2008, 10:45:50 AM
Some news. In last time some Ptc´s saying that they have Ddos attacks. And yesterday Isabelmarco, too.
Maybe they cant pay and need some reasons to change the bot-activity?


Sorry for my bad english, im just german ^^.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Memb on August 27, 2008, 04:12:23 PM
Probably they just faked the DDoS attack to slower users earnings. ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: rikkot on September 01, 2008, 02:26:36 AM
Alright. I was about to lay down some ownage on them but things were cleared up and her account was restored, plus she was paid. But of course that doesn't mean anyone should be less suspicious :P Notice they removed their live support as well.

Well, this is usually the case. Lot's of people have a bug or two, or get hacked and can't log in, and then before they can get too desperate their problems are solved on IM.

Let's put it this way: if all they do is sell bots and membership, they really need to keep people happy, otherwise, they will stop buying refs and upgrades.

Bux3, Xclix, Dailyclicks, Foxcash, Bux.to and many others didn't keep their members happy and these sites are collapsing.

So, if you wanna be a Ponzi, then pay as fast as you can.

Anyway, I can compare my refs at Extra10 and IM. At IM, they click a lot, bot or not, it's like 95% active. Some of my downline has more than 3000 clicks. Even most refs die at 2 months, it takes me only 10-12 days to recoup my investment.I In two months, they click up to 400 times. That's 3.7 times what they're worth. Since I got paid 8 times already, I did get the ROI. And the money I reinvested was earned in the site anyway. The only money that came from my own pocket was for the first membership and the first 5 + 35 pack in March. I keep more than half of the money I get for my own expenses. So, I am sure I am not losing money.

This is great for the ~$50 I spent in March:

22 Aug 2008 18:40     $ 403.29     PayPal     Payment Sent
26 Jul 2008 18:39    $ 358.79    PayPal    Payment Sent
27 Jun 2008 20:45    $ 518.00    PayPal    Payment Sent
25 May 2008 22:47    $ 501.00    PayPal    Payment Sent
28 Apr 2008 23:17    $ 176.00    PayPal    Payment Sent
05 Apr 2008 16:40    $ 102.00    PayPal    Payment Sent
18 Mar 2008 17:20    $ 20.00    PayPal    Payment Sent
03 Mar 2008 07:01    $ 9.00    PayPal    Payment Sent

At Extra10, it's below 40% and they click sometimes. It's gonna take almost two months for me to recoup the investment. I know the site is gonna pay me and stuff. But it takes a bit longer.
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: brazil_lalala on September 03, 2008, 12:15:30 AM
ponzi paradise is what i call it now, with all the little ponzi banners on both sides of the site

what a disgusting cesspool of scams ;D ;D ;D

isabel should be the official spokesman for ptctalk

... Grow up. Made over $500 (PAID) within 3 months with $0 investment and then another $1,000 with around $100 investment.
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: montan on September 04, 2008, 12:21:26 AM
ponzi paradise is what i call it now, with all the little ponzi banners on both sides of the site

what a disgusting cesspool of scams ;D ;D ;D

isabel should be the official spokesman for ptctalk

... Grow up. Made over $500 (PAID) within 3 months with $0 investment and then another $1,000 with around $100 investment.


WOw  :o  did u wonder how many didn`t got their payment  ??? the site is unsustainable and and proof less for me, so stop being a puppet and open ur eyes .

unless u are paid to post ur opinion here;
this has becoming a habit , we are under attack by dummy`s ..
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: sabbie on September 04, 2008, 06:28:28 AM
it seems all $1000+ payouts are delayed already, when will the lower amounts be put on hold?

Quote
IMPORTANT : Payouts with more then 1000$ will be more delayed then others, we don't think this will be a problem because eveybody knows that we pay.
we do this also for the smaller investors, so they have also a chance to earn more.
All the money we recieve from our sites will be invested to gain more money, so we can keep the site at the same level .
As you can see we are nearing the 1.000.000$ payout to members , who did that before us ?
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: Erqqu on September 04, 2008, 02:50:37 PM
IsabelMarco will die soon, i hope that also all buxtard's die with them.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on September 05, 2008, 02:28:52 PM
just got this from IM looks like he/shes going bankrupt

Here are just a few ways to help IM

Quote
1. Upgrade To Premium!

1 Year Upgrade: http://www.isabelmarco.com/myindex.php?p=upgrade&type=Year
1 Month Upgrade: http://www.isabelmarco.com/myindex.php?p=upgrade&type=Month

2. Donate To IM
Link: http://www.isabelmarco.com/myindex.php?p=convert

3. Install IM's Toolbar
Link: http://ptcsitestoolbar.ourtoolbar.com/

4. Convert Balance To Ads (Advertise Stuff try and make more money!)
Link: http://www.isabelmarco.com/myindex.php?p=convert

5. Join IM's Network Sites

PimpBattle.net - Multiplayer Online Text Based Game
Link: http://www.PimpBattle.net

IMfriends.net - Social Network
Link: http://www.IMfriends.net

6. Advertise On IMsMillionDollarHomePage.com
Link: http://www.IMsMillionDollarHomePage.com

7. Recruit New Members! Friends, Family Etc..
Link: YOUR REFERRAL LINK

To unsubscribe from these announcements, login to the forum and uncheck "Receive forum announcements and important notifications by email." in your profile.

You can view the full announcement by following this link:

http://kevain.com/isabelmarcoforum/index.php?topic=7044.0

Regards,
The Isabelmarco's Moneymaker Team.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Memb on September 05, 2008, 03:19:36 PM
That was actually a users post. ::)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on September 05, 2008, 03:47:51 PM
That was actually a users post. ::)

Well thats weird i got it by email from IM :D ;) ::)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on September 06, 2008, 08:30:35 AM
i received the same email. 

last week they deleted 40.000+ bots, that should save them a lot in ref earnings :D

with only 10-15k real members they cant keep selling bots forever.  at some point members will have enough bots and stop buying them


Add to that the delay in payouts to members with a $1000+ pending and it should be enough to convince anyone to stop investing.


Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on September 06, 2008, 10:00:26 AM
LOL another tos change: :o :o

When do I get paid?
You can request for payment once you're account balance is the minimum amount accumulated. Your payment will be processed and issued via Alertpay or Paypal
- Free Members within 50 days or less
- Premium members with max 500$ payout : 30 days or less
- Premium members between 500 en 1000$ payout : 35 days or less
- Premium members between 1000 and 5000$ payout : 40 days or less
- Premium members wit more then 5000$ payout : 50 days or less.
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: mjomha on September 07, 2008, 11:22:03 PM
IsabelMarco will die soon, i hope that also all buxtard's die with them.

lol they wont they got some back sites lol neobux :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: rikkot on September 10, 2008, 05:48:03 AM
with only 10-15k real members they cant keep selling bots forever.  at some point members will have enough bots and stop buying them

According to Isabelmarco's stats page:

Total Premium members     23122

It's a bit more than 15000 real members. And there are about 60000 active free members.
IM's ads get about 30000 clicks/day now. Not everyone clicks everyday. Not even I do.

I was also surprised about all these changes, but I don't mind having a ref deleted from m account if they haven't clicked for 30 days.
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: sadekjake on September 29, 2008, 02:09:30 AM
i dont know y you guys are so pissed about isabelmarco.

can you name a better site (ptc)?

they have paid well over $1200000, highest by any of the damn ptcs on earth.

Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: montan on September 29, 2008, 06:14:57 PM
i dont know y you guys are so pissed about isabelmarco.

can you name a better site (ptc)?

they have paid well over $1200000, highest by any of the damn ptcs on earth.


wow , and how many they didnt pay ? do u know math ? dont be naive man.

isabel is the new bux.to ..another sux.to
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on October 02, 2008, 01:00:45 AM
no more money :D

Quote
BIG CHANGES !!
« on: Today at 12:22:48 PM »   

This change is to protect  our investors and ourselfs !

Today we deleted nearly 60 accounts  ( autoclickers )
Today we deleted more then 3000 fake accounts  made by cheaters.
Lost aprox :  more then 15.000$  ( thats our and also your money  ! )

most complainers come from free members !  99% of cheaters are free members !

Conclusion :

NO MORE PAYOUTS FOR FREE MEMBERS ! 
FREE MEMBERS CAN SUBSCRIBE AND CLICK AS MANY ADS THEY WANT,PLAY LOTTERIE AND SO ON.

EVERYBODY FROM NOW ON HAS TO BE pREMIUM TO GET HIS PAYOUTS !

there will always be enough to invest, and you can still refer

We have to get rid off those people who are only here to cheat or to earn money on the back of others (investors)

WE HOPE THAT ALL OUR INVESTORS CAN AGREE WITH THIS !
IT WILL BENEFIT US ALL
WE WILL GET MORE TRUST FROM ADVERTISERS BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT  WE HAVE QUALITY MEMBERS FROM NOW ON.

SUCCES TO YOU ALL !

http://kevain.com/isabelmarcoforum/index.php?topic=9920.0

Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on October 02, 2008, 01:22:12 AM
hahahhaha

no more money buddy lol

looks like the bots are doing the job right lol

lets wait a couple of weeks i bet they wont be here anymore.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: GoycP on October 02, 2008, 09:13:41 AM
ByeBye scammer,
although you stand longer than expect,
it doesn't mean you will be the last man standing.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: montan on October 02, 2008, 10:33:12 AM
finally . i sure they will open a new scam.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on October 05, 2008, 09:24:42 AM
with only 10-15k real members they cant keep selling bots forever.  at some point members will have enough bots and stop buying them

According to Isabelmarco's stats page:

Total Premium members     23122

It's a bit more than 15000 real members. And there are about 60000 active free members.
IM's ads get about 30000 clicks/day now. Not everyone clicks everyday. Not even I do.

I was also surprised about all these changes, but I don't mind having a ref deleted from m account if they haven't clicked for 30 days.


in light of all the new changes this is a very interesting post.   isabel started adding the premium members on august 19th,  they have known this was coming for a long time ;D

as of now it gives us a fairly exact amount of 'real' members.  just over 23.000 out of the approx. 1.5 million :o

it looks to me like they are getting desperate  :'(

changes in payout tos
delays in payouts
prices went up
earnings went down
one new site after the other
bots galore

no more payouts to free members, so what about those free members that purchased their bots or spent their money on advertising?
they lose everything unless they pay to be paid :'( :'(

we cant even call them a bot selling ponzi because they arent selling bots.   
they call them shares instead so now we are all share holders :D :D :D
it might sound a little nicer but the effect is the same,  the shares are programmed to earn a certain percentage and will become inactive to force 'upgraded' members to purchased over and over again :D





Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Memb on October 05, 2008, 12:24:51 PM
They banned me because I have flamed them at PTCTalk. ;D

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1019/imls6.th.jpg) (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imls6.jpg)

E: typo
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: montan on October 06, 2008, 01:33:29 AM
down u go isabel , the faster the better  >:(

They banned my because I have flamed them at PTCTalk. ;D

(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/1019/imls6.th.jpg) (http://img184.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imls6.jpg)

what did u expect to happen . isabel is like a bank to those scammers in ptctalk , and they just cant give any intelligent remark , easy to ban everyone that mess whit their business. screw them
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: saareks on October 06, 2008, 02:37:51 PM
Well, neobux have paid 1700000$  ::)
Title: Re: Best PTC site in last 6 months
Post by: sabbie on October 06, 2008, 03:18:58 PM
Well, neobux have paid 1700000$  ::)

sure they have.... :D

whatever the amount i'm sure its not 1c more than what the members keep reinvesting in renting the bots :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: charlieeee44 on October 10, 2008, 04:07:01 PM
yep the crap banned me toooooo    :D :D :D :D

oh premium member i ask here to take money from my account as paypal had frozen my account for the time being


responce the spannish idiots banned me i lost my investments


they are full 100% scam they got no money left all they do is complain about no money for this and that


scammers  IM IS FULL OF IT
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: charlieeee44 on October 10, 2008, 08:04:42 PM
well heres a new one for isabelmarco

i just called back all paypal transactions as unautherized

now they have there work cut trying to tell paypal they didnt steal my money

screw them down the hatch isabel and marco goodbye

and i used all my 3 paypal accounts so they are done for
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: clancy2 on October 12, 2008, 12:22:10 AM
Quote
Today we deleted nearly 60 accounts  ( autoclickers )
Today we deleted more then 3000 fake accounts  made by cheaters.
Lost aprox :  more then 15.000$  ( thats our and also your money  ! )

If they deleted them then the didn't pay them so where is the loss of $15,000 unless these accounts were paid in the past.

And what about the fact the Isabelmarco themselves got suckered into using Ggepay for a big loss of money back a couple of months ago. Only themselves to blame, not free members.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on October 12, 2008, 01:25:24 AM
they were probably partners with ggepay we will never know

they didnt lost anything money that 15k was lost to their pockets lol
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: montan on October 12, 2008, 03:18:27 PM
well heres a new one for isabelmarco

i just called back all paypal transactions as unautherized

now they have there work cut trying to tell paypal they didnt steal my money

screw them down the hatch isabel and marco goodbye

and i used all my 3 paypal accounts so they are done for

how much did u lose ?


they were probably partners with ggepay we will never know

they didnt lost anything money that 15k was lost to their pockets lol

lol that definitely true.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on October 18, 2008, 05:01:56 PM
this quote comes from the im forum

Quote
Hello,
I am going to try to explain the payment delays.
We had a lot of problems with the server, with updates of stats (2 and 3 times in the same day),
with Ddos attacks and so on.
This has costed us a lot of money ( between 150 and 200.000$ )
We always kept paying out also on the days that everything went wrong.
We still make payouts but with delays.
Why ?
-First the lost money mencioned before.
-Second, the lost money cuased bu hackers and cheaters, the last 2 weeks we deleted more then 5000 fake refs made .
-Third, its not easy to generate all this money for the payouts, and our other websites aren't  gaining so much that we thought off.
   So the incoming moneystream isn't  sufficient for the moment to make the payouts, so its logical that we have delays.
  We paid already 1.500.000$ to our members, who has done this before ?
-Fourth, we don't have so much help from our members, who clciks the non paid ads like Google and Lookery, who uses the toolbar to make your searches ??
  Not much because we have the statistiques....

We just want to mension this :  We keep paying out and we hope one day we can get rid of the delays.

Also very important and think about it :  Our business is yours too, if we don't have money... then its obvious that you don't have money.

Greetings to all of you,

Keep on reading the ads ( and non paid ads)

IM

http://kevain.com/isabelmarcoforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=1caf1f6ce3eedef8b6805cd246ed62a1&topic=12489.0
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: montan on October 18, 2008, 08:11:31 PM
this quote comes from the im forum

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Hello,
I am going to try to explain the payment delays.
We had a lot of problems with the server, with updates of stats (2 and 3 times in the same day),
with Ddos attacks and so on.
This has costed us a lot of money ( between 150 and 200.000$ )
We always kept paying out also on the days that everything went wrong.
We still make payouts but with delays.
Why ?
-First the lost money mencioned before.
-Second, the lost money cuased bu hackers and cheaters, the last 2 weeks we deleted more then 5000 fake refs made .
-Third, its not easy to generate all this money for the payouts, and our other websites aren't  gaining so much that we thought off.
   So the incoming moneystream isn't  sufficient for the moment to make the payouts, so its logical that we have delays.
  We paid already 1.500.000$ to our members, who has done this before ?
-Fourth, we don't have so much help from our members, who clciks the non paid ads like Google and Lookery, who uses the toolbar to make your searches ??
  Not much because we have the statistiques....

We just want to mension this :  We keep paying out and we hope one day we can get rid of the delays.

Also very important and think about it :  Our business is yours too, if we don't have money... then its obvious that you don't have money.

Greetings to all of you,

Keep on reading the ads ( and non paid ads)

IM

http://kevain.com/isabelmarcoforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=1caf1f6ce3eedef8b6805cd246ed62a1&topic=12489.0

WHAT? ef iu isabel till u die   
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1261/gunfireavatarbychaosmolki3.gif) (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: eecash on October 19, 2008, 02:43:47 AM
I already turned my money into ads on that site.  I guess now would be the time to advertise there since all their members are looking for new sites to invest in  :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: eecash on October 19, 2008, 02:58:08 AM
"...Our business is yours too, if we don't have money... then its obvious that you don't have money..."

Yeah, no sh*t IsabelMarco, because you took it all.

Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: montan on October 21, 2008, 01:43:58 PM
I already turned my money into ads on that site.  I guess now would be the time to advertise there since all their members are looking for new sites to invest in  :D
yes. what did u advertise ?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: fab68 on November 14, 2008, 02:51:09 PM
 >:(
I've post in forum...
...Tread cancelled....
In the post about payout....

PREMIUM MEMBER will get payd in 60 day ???

at STANDARD user request PREMIUM to pay ???
In the t.o.s.....nothing is writing

FOR US

WE ARE ALL CHINA

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: YoungOne on November 15, 2008, 01:11:03 AM
they changed the TOS 3 days after i requested payout
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: fab68 on November 15, 2008, 03:54:37 PM
 ;D
He answer me...You must be premium

He must go..."To know some Greeks"

;D

....ed Skammers
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: fidelcastro on December 22, 2008, 12:38:24 PM
best PTC I ever been on.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on December 22, 2008, 09:38:05 PM
LOL yes isabelmarco is the best ptc ever seen :D :D  Not only do you need to upgrade to be paid you also need to donate half your account balance.
not compulsary, but if you dont donate you will probably be waiting until christmas 2020 :D :D :D :D

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THE GOOD NEWS - We have additional funds available to add more people to the donation list for payment in January.

In order to make this fair, the list is open for people who wish to donate half their full balance and have a pending payment requested between 1st AUGUST and 8th SETEMBER.

You need to provide your

USERNAME of the main site
FULL BALANCE (on your stats page)
PENDING PAYMENT (on your accounts page) and date requested
AND CONFIRMATION that you are happy to donate half of your full balance.

Please be aware how this works, because some of the questions i have been asked, well not to put too fine a point on it, i am astounded at the level of intelligence of some people.

So an example for you:-

FULL BALANCE = $10000
Pending Payment = $8000

If this person is happy to donate half their balance, then they would donate $5000. This leaves them only $5000 left, so their pending payment drops from $8000 to $5000.

Please be aware that all large payments (over $600) are being paid INITIALLY at $400 a week...this may be a higher weekly amount in February if admin's income is sufficiently higher.. (we are looking at things will significantly improve with every month).
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: mjomha on December 23, 2008, 05:30:25 PM
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we are looking at things will significantly improve with every month

do they mean opening another site, or running away :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: makiaveli on January 04, 2009, 01:44:39 PM
isabelmarco are one of the first PTCs and I think they are good but 60 days for payment? No thanks
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: TiberiusX on January 04, 2009, 07:48:15 PM
They deleted my account
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: nikompanys on January 06, 2009, 12:10:38 AM
Isabelmarco is still the best site for advertising, despite all complaints.
I like them, despite i don't earn anything there, im just advertising.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Aurora on January 19, 2009, 11:18:32 PM
changed his mind again :D :D

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IM has been through a lot of ups and downs, and so has all of IM’s members.  We’re truly sorry about the backlog and delay in payments.  And have decided that the only way to slow down this backlog or even eventually get rid of it.  Is to cut it in half.   This backlog was caused by a serious glitch in the code where more then half of IM’s members received double, sometimes even tripled their refs update for a few days.  This means that IM suffered more then 600,000 in loss.  Much more then we thought.  This huge loss of money caused this awful backlog.  Since before this glitch IM was running well, stable and payments were made in 30 days or less.

IM has suffered now with the failing economy, less purchases on refs, with the decline in advertising, and less of all of this means receiving less money to pay out to those owing in pending payments from refs.  “Imshares are not affected by this, and are going strong, and payments are made on time with no backlog.”  IM has tried to make it fair now for everyone by even allowing those to upgrade from their balances with some hope that this would also lessen the huge backlog.

But it will not even make a dent in it.  IM also came out with the plan of Jan half balance list.  Unfortunately this list has also suffered, as with less purchases and advertising lately comes less payments and less and less budget and money being made for use for paypal payments.

This will not affect those on the January list as their balances have already been halved.

This will also not affect those that have not profited their investment.

This will not affect IMshares balances.

So the only way that IM can slowly but surely get rid of this backlog and still stay alive and standing is that they must now lower those members balances that have made more then their investment and have profited or have been paid more then their investment.  “This will only affect refs balance not Imshares as they’re an separate entity.”  But no-one will lose their investment and their balance will still be in profit just a little less.  This is only affect those that have doubled or even tripled their balances because of the glitch not those not in profit.   

IM is standing on one strong leg and will fall eventually if that other weak leg is not stabilized.  Please keep in mind as we do this that no-one will lose their investment!  And all that will have this done will be in profit still.  There is no ptc out there that will give you  double or even triple your investment.  IM will make sure you’re in profit though by either being paid more then your investment or making sure you receive more then your investment from your balance.

“Please understand, that IM has to do this to stay alive and that without doing this will fall and no-one gets paid.”  IM doesn’t wish to ever stop or close its doors on its good members,  we will stay and fight for IM’s survival and to keep on paying out everyday.  Please support us and have faith that everything we do on here is for all of you and that we’re only doing this for the benefit of everyone so that we don‘t fall and do keep on paying.
 

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a) First we will see how much you invested in IM.
b) We will see how much you donated.
c) then we make the account :  Balance - ( a + b) , and what is left may not be more then the double of your investment (balance includes payout request)
All the rest will be taken out of your account .
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: BlackThursday on January 20, 2009, 11:21:47 PM
Wow. Define Ponzi Scheme. That's essentially what we're seeing there.
Title: Has Isabelmarco gone?
Post by: dremus on March 08, 2009, 03:57:19 PM
Been trying to get on to the Isabelmarco website but it keeps coming up 404

http://www.isabelmarco.com/index.php?p=login
Title: Re: Has Isabelmarco gone?
Post by: dremus on March 08, 2009, 07:02:55 PM
Reports coming from the site state it was hacked  ::)
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: ss9768 on March 11, 2009, 08:49:15 AM
i don't like when ptcschange their terms midway
because these were not the terms and conditions we join upon but are imposed upon us especially when we build up a balance.
dailyclicks.biz did a similar thing and then disappeared
its better to quit isabelmaeco
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: pitbull on March 11, 2009, 12:02:17 PM
isabelmarco are one of the first PTCs and I think they are good but 60 days for payment? No thanks

 :D One of the first PTC's? ROFL I don't know where you get your information from but they were definitely not one of the first.
They are not a good site period. Once they got into so much debt they decided to label all free members as cheaters and decided not to pay free members and only pay upgraded members and changed their TOS.
This was a good excuse to wipe out so much site debt they had no chance in paying and not pay the members that had requested before the change. The change should have started the day they made the change and they should have paid all pending requests made before the change. But they didn't and so many lost out so much earnings to this scam site.
Stay away from this site.
Title: Re: isabelmarco's
Post by: ripper88 on June 09, 2009, 07:09:33 PM
my account has been delete too.  :-[
dunno why
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: caga120 on November 04, 2009, 08:12:15 AM
is the site isabelmarco.com pays anyone?
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Rainbowcolours on November 04, 2009, 08:35:59 PM
this site has been on the scam for so long i don't remember when it stopped paying  :D check blackthursdays post - January 2009.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: PTC_user on November 08, 2009, 01:42:37 PM
I tried it and wait for payment

(http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt227/mcajic/Isabelmarko_ref_mcajic.jpg)
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: PapaiMark on November 08, 2009, 04:19:19 PM
You are testing power of  ;) this forum.
Send him a ticket.
"Dah, I am very very happy that I reach the minimum and I am waiting and I told my friends on TalkPTC that you pay your not scam and they are waiting to see the proof... they will see because I love this site bye."
 ;D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: redgirl1423 on November 08, 2009, 04:47:34 PM
 :D i tried that a few month ago but they wrote me back that they were just about to pay me and realized i was not premium anymore so i should upgrade first. no thanks. you should not have to pay for anything including premium to get payed unless it was in the TOS when you joined, not added after.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: sabbie on November 08, 2009, 04:57:52 PM
isabelmarco has some new rules.  

they have a forex investment plan.  its only available to premium members.  

premum members must make a donation of at least $2 from pp or ap.  then they add their name to some list on the forum.

then they wait for months and a few them might even get paid.  they do not get paid their pendings,  if they are extremely lucky they get paid double their donations

I willl say it again,  if you feel lucky don't send them the $2 buy a lottery ticket  :D :D


btw if your not clicking at least 200 ads a month your pending gets deleted, 
if your not clicking at least 200 ads for 2 months your premium gets stolen and your never getting paid, not even if you pay to be paid  :D
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: redgirl1423 on November 08, 2009, 05:11:27 PM
yes, i did that once, invested $20 and got back $3, not a great investment. :D so i quit.
Title: Re: isabelmarco.com
Post by: Lee768 on November 09, 2009, 08:23:23 PM
Over 4 months waiting, now they delete my account perhaps for inactivity. Wouldn't waste your time here either.