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PTC Earning Guide => Sites To Stay Away From => GPTINTERNET.COM - GPTNETWORKS SCAM - ILLUSIVE WEB SERVICES SCAM => Topic started by: StalkingButler the III on March 24, 2008, 11:23:38 PM
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i would advise to stay away from here, they are some how affilliated with oxidation
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc217/valiumblue/oxi.jpg)
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LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a retard!!!!!!! i cant beleive they jusdt made this statement!! omfg
bet advertisers will love this basicly there saying their no different than cheaters themselves or bux.to
LMFAO!!
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc217/valiumblue/oxi2.jpg)
NOW THIS TRULY DESERVES A SPOT RIGHT ON THE SCAMLIST
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Just link directly to the post Stalky ;)
http://earn3.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3
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how did they know redlight was stalky :P or is that common knowledge on the internet?
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because i do not hida my identity like half these crooks thats why admin
i have no need to hide in the shadows like these scum
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Just link directly to the post Stalky ;)
http://earn3.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=3
screenshots are more effective will, because you guys can never delete them :D ;D
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funny my account is not deleted there after i asked nicely :D
you guys certainly wouldnt be planning on selling me as a referral would you? :D :D
oh wait thats right, :D thats how bux sites get all their money :D :D
selling known inactives and people that ask to get their accounts deleted :D
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and the entire post is gone form their forum, well willj guess you know why i took the liberty to take screenshots now. ;D ;)
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Wow, that admin just got BURNED! :P
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so mr willj778, would you be the second administrator that was there? :D :D if so then why dont you say so? :D :D funny you showed up mere minutes after my visit to their forum and then you come here and leave your smart remark :D sites also hosted form your servers...so......thats really sad if you have teamed up with oxi as well........
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You know I never have and never well work with Oxi dude, that kid still owes me money on Fast.sc
Ive always worked Solo, you know that.
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Oh you also accused me of working for this site, why would I post a link to the thread and then delete it? lol
Your a tad bit paranoid about this new site..lol
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Oh you also accused me of working for this site, why would I post a link to the thread and then delete it? lol
Your a tad bit paranoid about this new site..lol
a tad bit paranoid? yes willj778 were all paranoid bout stupid little kids here ;D ;D
theres 2 admins, other admin could have deleted it ;)
tell me will how did you see that thread so quick? its like you were already there in the forum :D
ya i think im paranoid for all the right reasons
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I'm just insulted you accuse me of working with Oxi >.<
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I'm just insulted you accuse me of working with Oxi >.<
the ptc world has shown its true ugly colors thats all.. :D
trust no one
how you think i felt for puttin the TITAN TAMPONS in there place and i was made out to be the bad guy ::)
and there they are over there now teamed up with mr oxi himself and "myscamscript" along with a bunch of other underage illegal shady operations going on
im such a terrible person..............
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anyways, i will stop the accusations here, all im sayin is they are somehow affiliated with oxidation, and it was quite strange how the admin typed like you and you were real quick to post here
more than likely its mr ronnies site that was my first assumption yesterday.
but where ronnie gos so does oxidation it seems now
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ya he said he "sold" MyPayScript, but still works there?, so shady that whole scheme, it cracks me up.
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ya he said he "sold" MyPayScript, but still works there?, so shady that whole scheme, it cracks me up.
yes it does crack me up sometimes as well, someone even made a comment the other day how they (oxi, titan network )are now really no different than icashout and his crew :D :D
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In the end all Bux programs end up scamming, its the nature of the beast, its a flawed system like HYIP.
So in a sense all Bux owners are scammers.
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I don't think will has working with oxi, I have always seen him as a trusty guy. I think it is oxi because no one can make a clone as good as that on a ptc script (ha has done so before with bux.to and is selling it).
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yes it does crack me up sometimes as well, someone even made a comment the other day how they (oxi, titan network )are now really no different than icashout and his crew :D :D
I guess that was me! :D
Now everyone knows why that little scammy kid was supported by them!
Right, folks, join MyScamScript... ...and pay double fees.
PTC "industry" is full of hypocrisy. Shame on you, all those who say you are against scam but give some repulsive individuals all your support! >:(
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yes it does crack me up sometimes as well, someone even made a comment the other day how they (oxi, titan network )are now really no different than icashout and his crew :D :D
I guess that was me! :D
Now everyone knows why that little scammy kid was supported by them!
Right, folks, join MyScamScript... ...and pay double fees.
PTC "industry" is full of hypocrisy. Shame on you, all those who say you are against scam but give some repulsive individuals all your support! >:(
yes i agree,couldnt have said it better myself BRL IT IS TIME TO BOYCOTT TITAN NETWORK
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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seems to be self sponsored ads for earn3 on all of your sites willj778....................
you also implied that you were only insulted that i accused you of working with oxi.......
so who are you working with on this one? ;D
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and now i see the ref link for the swatcash and dynamic rewards advertisements on earn3 is the same as yours willj778 in your paid to signup ads on your site of clicksia.com ;)
so you;ve proved yourself a liar now..............?
and the fact that mr ronnie announced that he is no way related to the website.....yet theres ads for his sites with no ref link on earn3...........?.........
man............. >:( >:( >:(
just what the f*** do you guys think your tryin to pull here willj??????????????
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heres your ads showing on both earn3 and your site clicksia
so how do you come in here and lie and say your not involved?
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc217/valiumblue/will.jpg)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc217/valiumblue/will2.jpg)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc217/valiumblue/will3.jpg)
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc217/valiumblue/will4.jpg)
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and i know damn good and well that you didnt spend $140 for 10,000 hits between 2 sites willj778
because thats what the ad count is at right now for both those ads on earn3...around 5000 a piece and climbing..also know ronnie wouldnt pay that much either.....
so........?........
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Man you are the PTC detective..lol :D
Reason I didn't want to tell people I own it is because PTC is on really shaky ground at the moment, and I didn't want anyone to join or invest in it based on it being my site in case it fails.
As long as it has a Payment Processor it is going to be a paying site.
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Yay stalky is our own sherlock holmes ;D he will catch you all :D :D :D
i don't get why you don't want us to know it is yours will ???
seems to me it's a good thing when a site shows to have an owner we can trust.
who is the 2nd admin? he seems even more desperate to hide his identity than you were ??? i would hate to have to find out it is oxi, far as i am concerned he is a scammer:'(
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Second admin is no one with any other previous sites, do not worry. He is a great guy, and helped make Earn3 what it is, he is way more technical than me.
Im sure now that I have revealed the site is mine he well introduce himself.
I honestly did not want to reveal I own the site until it is established and I know it has a solid payment processor etc. Last thing I wanted to do is put my name on a site that would have to be closed due to technical issues.
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i can't wait to meet this great new guy ;D tell him we are waiting for him :D
ai was going to ask who you are in the forum : earn3 or admin but i see you already changed your name ;D
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please delete my accounts on your sites
clicksia username : stalking butler
earn3 username : redlight
and any others of your sites which ever they may be now
you are supporting and concealing oxidation
ronnie has lied as well and said hes not involved
i want nothing to do with this at all
i feel very sorry for you people that do not beleive he is helping and concealing oxi or ronnie
evidence is bitch slapping you right in the face yet you ignore...
you can probably go ahead and suspend clickzbomb......as i will more than likely have a very hard time convincing myself to pay you for your hosting ;D
edit : did clicksia already now just need you to delete my earn3 account
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I have nothing to do with Oxi or Ronnie dude, not cool to accuse me of that. Ive never even taked to Ronnie and Oxi owes me money.
Twysted knows who I work with, and it dam well isnt those Bux admins.
Screw you for even jumping the gun like this, very insulting.
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I have nothing to do with Oxi or Ronnie dude, not cool to accuse me of that. Ive never even taked to Ronnie and Oxi owes me money.
Twysted knows who I work with, and it dam well isnt those Bux admins.
Screw you for even jumping the gun like this, very insulting.
and screw you for lying to our faces, very insulting
still no explanation to why oxis ptctalk link and ronnies sites with no referrer were being advertised at your site?
come on will feed us another lie :D :D
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The site is on the watchlist ::)
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Oxi's PTC link was never on Earn3 you nut, it was always www.ptctalk.com
Bux3 was up with no referrer to get people talking as I didnt want to be known as the admin in the beginning.
What you think I cant start a good site without some other shady bux admins?
You are a loose cannon man, and your taking this hatred for these other guys a bit far.
Again ive never even talked to Bux3 admin ronnie, and ive never worked with Oxi.
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The site is on the watchlist ::)
Why on earth would you add my site to the watch list because of some guys grudge for some other admins.
I respected this forum for its intelligent unbiased opinions, but you guys are now accusing me of working with people I dont even know personally :o
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It was on the watchlist because we were not sure who the owner was.
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Oxi's PTC link was never on Earn3 you nut, it was always www.ptctalk.com
That is a lie :'(
Before you removed it you had one link to ptctalk with oxidation as referrer
your site was added to the watchlist because the owner was/is unknown and went to a lot of trouble to hide his identity :'(
your site will remain on the watchlist because the second owner is still unknown. We have a very strong suspicion oxidation is the second owner. With his history he belongs on the scamlist.
until we have confirmation one way or the other your site will remain on the watchlist
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Why on earth would I add Oxi's referral link on Earn3? This is simply not true at all. http://www.ptctalk.com was on Earn3 for the first 2 days. Oxi's referral link was NEVER on Earn3.
I'm done with this forum, you people need to chill the hell out. At least PTCTalk did not accuse me of working with some 14 year Oxi or any other Bux admin.
You wanna know the second admin? hes a good guy named Dennis, Twysted (Greg) has been working with him. I'm sure Twysted can comment on this when hes around, as he knows all the people I work with.
I will not be coming back to this Forum until I receive an apology for all these accusations about my business.
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Also Stalky I have been nothing but good to you giving you free hosting all this time because you cannot pay. Shame on you for accusing me without actually talking to me.
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Well, you probably wont see this post seeing as you are not returning to the forum but you have to admit that we did not know who the owner was, and therefore, like all ptc sites who dont disclose their owner we put earn3 on the watchlist. PTCTalk has a referral system and , the ptctalk link that was up was a ptctalk referral link for Oxidation, which made us more suspicious. This site will remain on the watchlist until we can confirm who the other owner is.
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At least PTCTalk did not accuse me of working with some 14 year Oxi or any other Bux admin.
I will not be coming back to this Forum until I receive an apology for all these accusations about my business.
There is a good reason ptctalk did not accuse you of working with oxi.
99% of them are noobs looking for referals. They do not even know the difference between scam and spam ???
the 1% with a brain didnt figure out it was you so why would they accuse you?
goodbye will
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Goodbye Will.
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ok that is enough!
Will does not work with Oxi or Ronnie, i don't know where you guys are getting your information. Cause it is very wrong. Do you think i would associate with some that works with oxi?! HELL NO!!!!
so i suggest you all take time to validate your information. I know who will works with and they are not oxi or ronnie.
and because a site has ads that link to things with no ref does not mean that the owner of said site works with the suspected person and /or persons. there has been several times i have run ads wiyth out refs cause because of layiness. you can not use ads as a valid reason to your claims.
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ok that is enough!
Will does not work with Oxi or Ronnie, i don't know where you guys are getting your information. Cause it is very wrong. Do you think i would associate with some that works with oxi?! HELL NO!!!!
so i suggest you all take time to validate your information. I know who will works with and they are not oxi or ronnie.
and because a site has ads that link to things with no ref does not mean that the owner of said site works with the suspected person and /or persons. there has been several times i have run ads wiyth out refs cause because of layiness. you can not use ads as a valid reason to your claims.
Did you even bother to read the thread?????
Do we have any idea who you associate with????? can we read your mind?????
This thread has been here for 4 days, you never felt the need to add your 2c ???
I will keep this short and simple for you. we do not claim oxidation is the second owner, we are asking and every reply we get is a lie.
We are not talking about a simple link without a referrer, we are talking about the one WITH a referer
There must be something very wrong with this site if Will feels the need to constantly lie about it.
he has a great reputation for being honest on his other sites, why the sudden change ???
Ive always worked Solo, you know that.
WILL DOES NOT WORK SOLO, LATER HE ADMITTED TO HAVING A PARTNER
Oh you also accused me of working for this site, why would I post a link to the thread and then delete it? lol
WILL DOES NOT ONLY WORK FOR THIS SITE, HE OWNS IT. Why did he delete the thread?
and now i see the ref link for the swatcash and dynamic rewards advertisements on earn3 is the same as yours willj778 in your paid to signup ads on your site of clicksia.com ;)
so you;ve proved yourself a liar now..............?
Oxi's PTC link was never on Earn3 you nut, it was always www.ptctalk.com
THE WAS A LINK TO PTCTALK AND IT DID HAVE OXIDATION AS THE REFERRER
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yes i read the thread.
why change things? why not?
this whole business has everyone on edge.......take a break before you have a heart attack
why did i do what i did on CV most the time? cause i wanted to. Just because someone has a link to something with a referrer in there as something that would be suspicious doesn't mean it needs to be explained. esp when there is a huge amount of secrecy and security on everything.
not everything needs an explaination. sometimes it's best not to even bring things up, so what if he had the refer link of oxi's maybe he was trying to frame oxi, i don't know but thats why i would have a link like that.
sometimes you peeps go all out when you don't need to. just look at the past to how i was treated. just take a chill pill, damn!
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There was never a link of Oxi's on Earn3, I was trying to hide my identity not promote something for Oxi.
BTW PTCTALK referral links are numbers, so where the heck did you guys even come up with Oxi's PTC Talk referral link being on earn3?
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There was never a link of Oxi's on Earn3, I was trying to hide my identity not promote something for Oxi.
BTW PTCTALK referral links are numbers, so where the heck did you guys even come up with Oxi's PTC Talk referral link being on earn3?
that is a good point, i would purhaps agree with everyone if maybe i saw proof, without proof it's just a bunch of he said she said bullshit
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yes i read the thread.
why change things? why not?
this whole business has everyone on edge.......take a break before you have a heart attack
why did i do what i did on CV most the time? cause i wanted to. Just because someone has a link to something with a referrer in there as something that would be suspicious doesn't mean it needs to be explained. esp when there is a huge amount of secrecy and security on everything.
not everything needs an explaination. sometimes it's best not to even bring things up, so what if he had the refer link of oxi's maybe he was trying to frame oxi, i don't know but thats why i would have a link like that.
sometimes you peeps go all out when you don't need to. just look at the past to how i was treated. just take a chill pill, damn!
why change things? why not? ??? ??? i am all for good changes. an honest admin suddenly lying is not a good thing
this whole business does not have everyone on edge, liars and scammers have everyone on edge and
m heart is fine thank you :D
if you feel a need to talk to me about cv you can do that in private, you know where to find me :'(
members have a right to explanations when something is clearly wrong. scammers do great when nobody asks for an explanation. i am sure that is best for them but not for their members.
not into pills at all :D
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There was never a link of Oxi's on Earn3, I was trying to hide my identity not promote something for Oxi.
BTW PTCTALK referral links are numbers, so where the heck did you guys even come up with Oxi's PTC Talk referral link being on earn3?
This link did not have a number it clearly said oxidation
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This link did not have a number it clearly said oxidation
Then it wasn't a PTC Talk referral link ... all of those referral links are in this format: http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php?referredby=#### (in some cases, just 3 digits)
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Then it wasn't a PTC Talk referral link ... all of those referral links are in this format: http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php?referredby=#### (in some cases, just 3 digits)
Thank you rich, this is what I am wondering, why would a referral link say oxidation if PtcTalk referral link is only numbers? Can the people who apparently saw a oxidation PtcTalk referral link please explain this to me???
I think no one saw it, and it was just Stalky going nuts and others are following him trying to label me associated with someone I have never been associated with.
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Ok, I know what the misunderstanding with the ptctalk ref link is. Even though the link itself is a series of numbers when you click on the register page you can see the person who you are joining under. What it does however, is it somehow saves this person in the cookies so even if you click on another persons referral link it will show the previous persons name there. For example if you click on Oxidation's referral link, and then click on willj's referral link afterward it will still show Oxidation as the person you are signing up under. Sorry for wrongly accusing you of having Oxidations ref link, but I had no idea that their system worked this way.
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Then it wasn't a PTC Talk referral link ... all of those referral links are in this format: http://ptctalk.com/forums/index.php?referredby=#### (in some cases, just 3 digits)
Thank you rich, this is what I am wondering, why would a referral link say oxidation if PtcTalk referral link is only numbers? Can the people who apparently saw a oxidation PtcTalk referral link please explain this to me???
I think no one saw it, and it was just Stalky going nuts and others are following him trying to label me associated with someone I have never been associated with.
Will, i apologize for saying you lied about having the ref link on your site. We have tested a few other ref links and it does seem the cookies of the first link clicked are saved. Every link i just tried gave me oxidation as a referer.
in this case it was not Stalky going nuts, i clicked the reflink and i saw oxidation as a referer. I showed it to Stalky.
you think nobody really saw a name instead of a number so i will add a ss of the page i get when i click a ptctalk ref link. This is NOT a ss of the ad posted on your site but a random link i just clicked
thanks for explaining Qw3rty :) makes me wonder how fair their referal contest is if all ads are redirected to the first link clicked ???
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wow i am having a really hard time gettin my account deleted anywhere i go
ptctalk did not want to delete my account when i asked nicely, so i had to explode on the fuckin noobs
you have not deleted my account yet willj,...
this forum did not delete my account
what the fuckin hell???,
and will j i could pay for hosting,i have 90,000 dollars in my bank account :D...twysted just left me in the dark about that for a long time shoudl take it up with him, :D
anyways i am done with all of this shit
young scammers can have ptc, it is completely useless anymore to combat it
soon all of this will collapse horribly into a nightmare of unbeleivabel scamfest,( i beileive were already there)...in which all investors, advertisers, and memebrs...ultimately leave( much like me right now :D ) and realize that its nothing but 13 year olds on the other end with a warez clone and mommy and daddys processor accounts
and i shall be sitting in the shadows watching the downfall..........
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wow i am having a really hard time gettin my account deleted anywhere i go
ptctalk did not want to delete my account when i asked nicely, so i had to explode on the fuckin noobs
you have not deleted my account yet willj,...
this forum did not delete my account
what the fuckin hell???,
and will j i could pay for hosting,i have 90,000 dollars in my bank account :D...twysted just left me in the dark about that for a long time shoudl take it up with him, :D
anyways i am done with all of this shit
young scammers can have ptc, it is completely useless anymore to combat it
soon all of this will collapse horribly into a nightmare of unbeleivabel scamfest,( i beileive were already there)...in which all investors, advertisers, and memebrs...ultimately leave( much like me right now :D ) and realize that its nothing but 13 year olds on the other end with a warez clone and mommy and daddys processor accounts
and i shall be sitting in the shadows watching the downfall..........
i didn't leave ou in the dark, i told you about it the day we switched to wills server you just blocked it out or let it slip your mind:p
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yes it could have slipped my mind maybe, havent had much sense of time the last month or 2 will even said sometihng to the same effect
look willj778 you cant blame us for this happening
we are here to protect are members from shady things that they probably should not get involved with.
so anyways i apologize to everyone in the forum but from now on i am not sayin shit bout no ptc
im siitin here and keepin my mouth shut
im going off topic with other subjects from now on
so when shit hits the fan i can just sit here and shake my head
i am not going to give any other opinions form now on other than "no im not going to join"
also i am giving 90 % of this ptc shit up as stated earlier so i really no longer care
im keeping this site
and all of JJ site and some other auroas thats about it
i am keeping my site mainly to promote my affiliate programs as those do me quite well
i found something else profitable, but am not going to share, for the fear of kids and scammers fuckin that up as well ;)
too bad for u all :D
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ok that is enough!
Will does not work with Oxi or Ronnie, i don't know where you guys are getting your information. Cause it is very wrong. Do you think i would associate with some that works with oxi?! HELL NO!!!!
so i suggest you all take time to validate your information. I know who will works with and they are not oxi or ronnie.
and because a site has ads that link to things with no ref does not mean that the owner of said site works with the suspected person and /or persons. there has been several times i have run ads wiyth out refs cause because of layiness. you can not use ads as a valid reason to your claims.
Did you even bother to read the thread?????
Do we have any idea who you associate with????? can we read your mind?????
This thread has been here for 4 days, you never felt the need to add your 2c ???
I will keep this short and simple for you. we do not claim oxidation is the second owner, we are asking and every reply we get is a lie.
We are not talking about a simple link without a referrer, we are talking about the one WITH a referer
There must be something very wrong with this site if Will feels the need to constantly lie about it.
he has a great reputation for being honest on his other sites, why the sudden change ???
Ive always worked Solo, you know that.
WILL DOES NOT WORK SOLO, LATER HE ADMITTED TO HAVING A PARTNER
Oh you also accused me of working for this site, why would I post a link to the thread and then delete it? lol
WILL DOES NOT ONLY WORK FOR THIS SITE, HE OWNS IT. Why did he delete the thread?
and now i see the ref link for the swatcash and dynamic rewards advertisements on earn3 is the same as yours willj778 in your paid to signup ads on your site of clicksia.com ;)
so you;ve proved yourself a liar now..............?
Oxi's PTC link was never on Earn3 you nut, it was always www.ptctalk.com
THE WAS A LINK TO PTCTALK AND IT DID HAVE OXIDATION AS THE REFERRER
WOW i have to quote this and say, ya.....you aint gettin no damn apology willj778, you brought this upon yourself by lying more than once and KNOWINGLY TRYING TO CONCEAL YOUR IDENTITY
imagine how i would have been viciously attacked at ptctalk and karma raped if i were to do just what the f*** you did
think about that mr willj778 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
hate to tell u this but you fuckin blew it buddy, this all could have been avoided
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Stalky nobody deletes because your cool 8)
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Stalky nobody deletes because your cool 8)
LMAO! that must be it admin, im some kind of lucky charm or something
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how is your luck doing with bux.to? :D
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how is your luck doing with bux.to? :D
quite shitty, im thinking about going into their forum and spamming all the noobs inboxes that i can befor ei get banned for the 50 th time
maybe send debbie and "e-card" :D
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Ok you guys are jumping the gun too fast.
It is not uncommon for a company to not reveal that they produced a product.
If Will had just said it was his new site, people would join assuming it would do well.
The reason Will hid the fact it was his site was that he wanted to wait and see if the site would even work.
It's not because his is a cold-hearted liar, or a scam artist. It is purely a demonstration of a business trying to protect it's other sites if one experimental one fails.
Face it, in this business, public relations are very big. If one site fails, it is labeled a scam, whether or not it is. In addition, every site connected, or even affiliated is shot down as well.
I really think that these sites designed to protect members should take a more formal stance, and work at cutting down on the propoganda.
The origional accusations, could prove to be correct, but it's a very inaccurate way to determine that a site is risky.
A formal proposal system for websites to be reviewed would be great. It will cut down on false accusations, and it looks a lot better than "OMFG!!!! WHAT A RETARD!!!"
Seriously? How am I supposed to respect your findings if you cannot even submitt them in an adult manner.
I like it here because there is less kids, spam, and overal junk. But I really think the forum staff needs to collectivly work on improving the site's image. Make your site what it claims to be, an adult forum where people discuss ptc sites.
So far, I am seeing a ptctalk clone, that claims it wants nothing to do with a site it get's much of it's content from.
There should be a proccess, a criteria, that a site must meet in order to be placed on the watch list.
Sure, referral links can be on that criteria, but maybe all but one link needs to be anylized eh?
Further searching proved that Will "could" own the site because of his swatcash referral link.
But still, that doesn't prove anything. Any member, and or admin could place the link.
If you looked even further you would see that e3 is hosted on the same server as Will's other sites.
There are many things that can be looked up, and anylized, (without waiting an extended period of time) that can evaluate a website, and try to create an image of the owner.
You can't judge a book by it's cover, and more importantly, you can't judge it because someone scribblessome text on the cover ;)
Have a great day guys, and please do consider a formal criteria required before a post like this is made again. I'm not trying to put you down SB, but jumping to conclusions is not the answer.
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name exactly how the f*** i jumped top conclusions dude
this i want to hear
name exactly how i jumped the gun???
you know damne well what willj778 did was wrong your just trying to defend him because your buddies
guess what, i am ( was) buddies with him too
but im sorry i will not veen defend my buddy who tries this shit
and all that shit you just wrote about for legit "reasons" as to why he would hide...THAT IS ALL PURE BULLSHIT AND MAKES NO FUCKIN SENSE AT ALL
MAYBE YOU ALL SHOULD JUST GPO BACK TO PTCTALK WITHTHE REST OF THE FUCKIN LIARS AND SHADY ASS ADMINS IF THIS IS YOU GUYS NEW TACTICS AT PROMOTING
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BASICLY YOU JUST CALLED ALL OF US "TEST SUBJECTS" I FIND THIS THE MOST DISGUSTING THING I HAVE EVER HEARD
I AM REALLY FUCKIN PISSED NOW......
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Stalky, jumping the gun qaulifies as your statement that Oxi/ronnie was the owner, or affiliated with the site based purely on an advertisement.
No, I do not think what he did was wrong. He was unsure if he would be able to manage a site with that much earning potential, so he chose not to raise false hopes with the people that look up to him.
I am not saying this is a tactic act promoting. I am saying it was used as a way to protect his other sites in case the new one was a total failure.
I really have to ask you to carry out a discussion instead of screaming and cursing. I see many curse words and capitol sentances. Really, is that how you want to present yourself? You want to get away from Ptctalk's childness? Try starting with yourself. I've seen children over their present them selves in a more adult manner than that.
Please explain how I called members of this forum test subjects.
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maybe we launch 1000 warez clones this week all privacy protected , deny the shit out of it, and drop em all like bombs right over there in fuckin noobville for you guys
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME WE WOULDNT GET FUCKIN VICIOUSLY ATTACKED AND CALLED SCAM AND SHADY ALL OVER FUCKIN PLACE ??? ??? ???
makin yourselves look worse and worse will and coin....
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Stalky, jumping the gun qaulifies as your statement that Oxi/ronnie was the owner, or affiliated with the site based purely on an advertisement.
No, I do not think what he did was wrong. He was unsure if he would be able to manage a site with that much earning potential, so he chose not to raise false hopes with the people that look up to him.
I am not saying this is a tactic act promoting. I am saying it was used as a way to protect his other sites in case the new one was a total failure.
I really have to ask you to carry out a discussion instead of screaming and cursing. I see many curse words and capitol sentances. Really, is that how you want to present yourself? You want to get away from Ptctalk's childness? Try starting with yourself. I've seen children over their present them selves in a more adult manner than that.
Please explain how I called members of this forum test subjects.
SO YOU ARE STATING ONCE AGAIN THAT IF NO ONE FOUND OUT WAS HIM AND THE SITE FAILED HE GETS AWAY WITH IT AND WOULD NEVER ADMIT TO ANYTHING..OR ANY INVOLVEMENT,..IN FATC HE WOULD PROBABLY USE OXI AS A FUCKIN SCASPEGOAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I SEE NOW
YOU HAVE MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR
WE WERE ALL TEST SUBJECTS
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Ok, I see this discussion going nowhere. Your going to sit there and scream, and not even try to talk with me.
What is there to get away with if a site fails? If he is trying to manage a new type of site that he has not, if it starts failing (losing more money than making) then it should not be allowed to effect his other, already estabilished sites. Believe me, if it fails, it will effect trust in those sites.
Don't get me wrong, if he ran the site for 3 or 4 months and if failed, I would see that as being pretty shady given he had not come forward. It's pretty easy to tell if a site will be succesful or not right from the start.
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discussion over, i am tired of hearing pathetic excuses, you all just totally destroyed your image and should probly go hang where your welcome
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Ok, I am sorry I did not curse and yell in all caps. Maybe next time I can improve my "image" by acting like a child as well. Then we can all scream and cry at each other like children. <.<
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guess its ok for us to do the same then? ok
be on the lookout for the sites that "we will not be associated with" soon
we will not be involved in any of them
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i curse and yell because i dont put up WITH BULLSHIT
MAYBE U LIKE GETTIN SPOONFED SHIT INTO YOUR FUCKIN MOUTH ???
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Spoonfed? What are you talking about now? All of my opinions are based on what I have viewed on this site, from real businesses, and business practices.
Few people are goin to respect your opinion when it is presented in such a way stalky.
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like i give a shit that noobs from ptctalk dont respect me,...ya im fuckin heartbroken....
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Spoonfed? What are you talking about now? All of my opinions are based on what I have viewed on this site, from real businesses, and business practices.
Few people are goin to respect your opinion when it is presented in such a way stalky.
hate to tell you this,..but very few people now respect you guys.....back to ptctalk you go now.... ;D
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Ok, now you've resorted to name calling real mature.
I have better things to do than hang out on a ptc forum all day.
A simple thing such as being a member on a site should not classify me into being equal to all the members.
Personally I base my opinions of people on their actions and words. Not where they come from.
If your going to base your information on that, do not forget that you were a member their long before I ever came around.
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yep bingo, i was a memebr for long time, until they let oxi and the kiddos and pirated scripts take over
as you clearly saw, i then cussed every fuckin noob underage kid there out and cronus and enigma as well, and left ;)
anyways im done here, you guyz blew it what else can anyone say :D
all of this could have been avoided on willj first post
think about that
this happened because he chose to do so
so remember be on the lookout for sites that we are not associated with
in no way shape or form are we going to be connected to them
but we will besure to tell the "admins" of those sites to put ads for ronnies sites and oxi up with no ref link to trick you guys over there
thanks for clearing it up that these shady tactics are totally acceptable ;) ;) ;)
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I said no such thing. If that is your opinion, fine. You are entitled to it.
You are just totally taking things out of context to prove your point.
I understand your concern with it. However you fail to stop and listen to the circumstances.
I do agree it all could have been avoided by Will. A lot could have.
None of this will effect how the site fails or prospers, so I guess we have argued in vain.
Have a good day, and good luck with your site / sites.
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alright time to chill and be happy people ;D i am forgetting about this thread, sorry for harsh words coinmachine i know your just trying to give light on this whole misunderstanding, very unfortuante it ended up this way, i dont even want to think about this thread anymore, i think we can both agree there.
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Deadly no circumstances warrant the lies in this thread. it may all just be a misunderstanding but if willj had just come out and said he started a new site there would never have been a problem
the methods used are the same methods we have all been using for a very long time. The scammers are here and we have the right to use any method necessary to find them.
Erika uses the same methods to hide who she is and we used the same methods to find her.
Nobody at ptctalk has any sense. her newest scam is being heavily promoted over there.
So who is right? Us because we use our proven methods and put her on the scamlist where she belongs?
or ptctalk? because they have no idea what they are doing and dont put her on a scamlist because she did not come out and say 'hi i am erika the scammer'
I wonder which forum is going to get the most crying teenagers in a few weeks ???
There used to be a time willj would use the same methods to find the scam. He seemed to agree with them back then. So what changed? how is this behaviour suddenly acceptable?
let me share a willj quote. it made sense when he posted it a long time ago and it makes even more sense now. Is owning a site not the same as participating?
What new guy ???
Registrant Contact:
WhoisGuard
WhoisGuard Protected ()
+1.6613102107
Creation date: 25 Jan 2007 20:59:44
Expiration date: 25 Jan 2008 20:59:44
Ya Sabbie ive started a new personal rule, I do not join or participate in any site with WHOIS privacy protection. If they are so concerned with hiding their identity, then no thanks.
[/quote
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Meh call me a scammer all you want Stalky, I wanted to protect my identity on this site in the beginning, but I guess I'm not allowed.
I have yet to scam anyone, and don't plan too. Well this site last forever? Who knows, but if it does fail it will mean its because I have run out of money paying members, not because I have transfered it all to my bank.
I think my history speaks for itself, and I think I'm the last person you should be flipping out about.
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Also I'd like to add that I think some of you are forgetting this is Business, and in Business you have to make moves that might necessarily not be favorable to some people.
Stalky maybe you should direct your energy towards improving your businesses and making money? Try and stay professional and git rid of the emotions.
There are always gonna be scamming businesses and scamming people in every area of life, instead of spending all your energy crying about it, why not try and make a more successful honest business?
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like i said i now sit here and watch the industry fall to shambles
been nice knowing some of u ;)
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You never apologized to me for accusing me of working with Oxi.
I wanna know whats wrong with you dude, seems you have taken a downward spiral into hatred :o
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his problem is the amount of shit he puts up with on his site, once upon a time ago i was told not to let it show, but when all you do is block, ban and erase ppl because of the stupid shit they do, it does get unbearable to hold in. Such to a point that you blow up at everyone, no matter who they are.
personally, using whois protection doesn't make you a scammer i use it on almost all my sites even my non ptc sites. You block the info and it stops you from recieveing junk email, junk mail, and stupid phone calls. There is nothing wrong with blocking the info.
The more ppl that get into owning a ptc site the more ppl that will explode from the stress and headaches. it's bound to happen to everyone. But only you can choose how you let it all out.
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You never apologized to me for accusing me of working with Oxi.
I wanna know whats wrong with you dude, seems you have taken a downward spiral into hatred :o
apology accepted willj778 lmao! j/k
i apologize for accusing you with working with oxi , i hope we all have learned from this incident not to be involved with shady little kids and their operations with such reputations as oxi
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willj are you still using mypayscript on earn3?
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You are a loose cannon man,
just wanted to quote this (hilarious ;D )
lmao! you are right willj778 i am a totally loose canon,...but i find it funny that me bein a loose cannon has saved me MANY hundreds of times from being scammed while i sit back and watch thousands and thousands of other people get scammed endless amounts of times ;D
it pays to be a loose cannon in this business i guess ;D
and again i seriously apologize for accusing you of working with oxi and the harsh comments throughout this thread to everyone
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still not deleted.. :P LMAO its ok willj778 ;D ;D
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still not deleted.. :P LMAO its ok willj778 ;D ;D
I sold you ;D ;D
Thanks for the apology, I also apologize for being harsh, just being accused of working with certain people was insulting lol >.<
Btw yes you are usually right my friend. Oxi's scheme MyPayScript owes me a shitload of money that i'll prolly never see, and Ronnies bux3 canceled my payout request on the 30th day by "accident" and now I have to wait another 30 days.
You seem to be right about these guys.
BTW poor 10bux admin is screwed more than me by Oxi's MyPayScript, he lost $4,000!
At this point im just pissed off Oxi was able to promote his MyPayScript through PTCTalk, If I get ripped off and he does not get banned from there, im never going back to PTCTalk again.
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willj are you still using mypayscript on earn3?
It's off Earn3 now, but I think Oxi has really ripped me off, have not been paid a cent from MyPayScript since it came back online.
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My friend told me that Earn3 is owned by a trusted owner, so I believe him. I hope to get paid by willj778 someday. ;D
So, I think Earn3 is not a 'watchlist' site?
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yea it can be taken off watchlist, only got put here because of certain aspects right when it launched
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I got paid in 5 min. on my second payment! :D Thanks!
I might invest. :)
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I got paid in 5 min. on my second payment! :D Thanks!
I might invest. :)
Ya good timing on the request, you caught me while I was working in the admin panel ;D
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I like monthly upgrades, might want to consider it. ;D
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At this point im just pissed off Oxi was able to promote his MyPayScript through PTCTalk, If I get ripped off and he does not get banned from there, im never going back to PTCTalk again.
PTCTalk should be added to the "Sites to stay away from" board, along with UrOnlineBitch. >:( ::) :P
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I think Earn3 should be removed from the watchlist if it has not already! :)
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I think Earn3 should be removed from the watchlist if it has not already! :)
Was moved yesterday :o
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do you think they pay people who use autoclickers?
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Hmmm...didn't they use to have cheat checks before but then the new admins took them off?
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i think this now be considered sites to stay away from..
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do you think they pay people who use autoclickers?
autoclickers :o :o :o
you mean something like the one your offering for getref? :D :D
i dont think earn3 is going to pay you ;D