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PTC Earning Guide => Sites To Stay Away From => Topic started by: sandycah on April 22, 2008, 07:35:10 AM
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By the owner of HONESTBUX LATINPTC
busyclicks just open only 30 member.
earning from referral 100%
ptc 0.01 - 0.005 $
cashout paypal alertpa and e-gold only 1$
join here
Edit: title modified!!
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DENIED FOR THE DOWNLINE BUILDER
All sites run by Maderite Networks formerly Known as Latinptc will be denied for the downline builder
they have the nerve to sell one site after the other but open new sites at the same time??
Several of our members had accounts on honestbux. Their accounts are gone, their upgrades and referals are gone, their earnings are gone.
it has been a few eeks. time they go on the scamlist :'( :'(
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my karma always grow up with my downline builder. thanks aurora for your info.
master is great.
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makes me very happy to see this in the scam section ;D ;D
i bought refs and upgrades on april 7th, now my account has disappeared. i sent 3 messages to the admin but he cannot be bothered to give me an answer :'( :'( :'(
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Same here.
http://meet.theclickers.net/index.php?topic=517.msg1885#msg1885 (http://meet.theclickers.net/index.php?topic=517.msg1885#msg1885)
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thanks for sharing your experience alkinoos.
the name talkptc has been replaced with google on ptctalk. :D :D :D
are they trying to protect the scamming admins there or are they just trying to stop their members disovering the truth about the scamming admins:'( :'( :'(
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I am not the admin of HonestBux. I just want to give update about HonestBux in case there are members of that site in this forum.
HonestBux has been back after severe hack attacks and now is still doing data recovery processes. For those who have upgraded before the down of the website, the admin asked you to do the re-upgrading process again via the website - just skip the payment processes and then immediately use the contact form to notify the admin. Do the same thing for your purchased referral-packs: buy the same pack that you have bought before, skip the payment processes and contact the admin.
I have done it yesterday and the admin immediately re-upgrade my membership status and replaced all my missing purchased referrals: only in a few hours!
The data recovery is still in process and the admin is still waiting the results from the data-recovery company that he hired. We can start clicking immediately and when the database has been fully restored, the admin promised that he will add our new earnings to the previous earnings (before the server crashed).
And for those who found that their account/username missing/unrecognized, you can re-register using the exact previous username so that the recovery script can then recognize it and combine the new activities/earnings with the previous ones before the crash.
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thanks for the update topptc ;D i always thought it was an admins responsibility to keep his members updated, too bad this one can't be bothered :D
hacked? data recovery? BULL
any admin with more than a day experience would have a backup, at worst he would lose 1 or 2 days. members would understand that.
There is no valid reason for a site to disappear for a week and then be missing almost everything when it returns :'(
those noobs will believe him but anyone with more than a week experience will know he is a lying scammer :D
if there was the slightest bit of truth to it he would be trying to recover honestbux instead of starting new scams
As for making dup account or upgrading and getting referals without paying, that is a stupid idea, it will just give him a good reason to delete your account. if he thinks people should be doing this he should put it in writing :'(
if you paid by paypal it makes much more sense to do a chargeback. I did ;D
Stalky you are right. ;D
i really have been lucky until now but lately i got scammed too much. Whenever i did get scammed it was by a ptctalk admin. first enigma and now by this HONEST admin.
With exception of the 2 or 3 admins we already know and trust i refuse to join any site run by the admins over there. :'( :'( :'(
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Wow didnt know honestbux,etc were scams. Looks like I will be leaving them, cant stand kiddies, I got one of my own and hes a pain lool. :P :P :P
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beware amniwalkr is out to scam some more. >:(
he has plenty of time to start one site after the other but no time at all for hi old sites
he started clickmonster but all his members at honestbux are still waiting for their account, upgrades, referals and payouts. :D :D
still no reply to the 3 messages i sent :'(
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just to update ;D
i did a paypal chargeback on this scammer. :D
Today paypal let me know that i would not get my money back because the scammer doesnt have any money in his account :D
They tell me i will get my money back if and when he ever receives anything in his account.
i joined his new site today just to find his new paypal so i could give this information to paypal.
Just maybe i can get the money back that way and even if i dont get it ii hope it may just draw some attention to his new paypal. :D :D
this guy needs close watching by paypal :o
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i guess this scammer doesnt want me charging back on his new paypal.
i just got an email from a 'new owner'?? he must having health issues too :D :D
is there anyone still believing all this bull ???
he does manage to spam is sux.to link while he is at it :'(
Van: THe Click Monster
Datum: 4-5-2008 16:43:18
Aan: xxxxx
Onderwerp: Under new management
Dear xxxxx,
Just to inform you that theclickmonster.info is now under new management.
We plan to continue develop and improve the site to give our members a better experience and allow them to earn more money.
Want to make some extra money?
Why not tell your friends about us?
And visit http://bux.to/?r=l33h4ll and become a member.
We would also need to point out theclickmonster does not tolerate cheaters and autoclickers. Any members caught doing so will be banned.
Thank you for your support,
The Click Monster
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what goes around comes around :D :D :D
Van: BusyClicks
Datum: 4-5-2008 21:11:54
Aan: sabbie
Onderwerp: Paypal Problems
We are experiencing problems yet again with paypal due to a user purchasing with a fraudulent account we will be adding it back to the site as a payment and purchase option shortly.....
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this guy needs close watching by paypal :o
Not only this guy... I believe PayPal must be informed about ALL new PTC 1+ cent ponzi schemes that offer PayPal as cashout/purchase option... If they don't get their account frozen during the first couple of days of the program's existance, it will be later...
When PayPal decided to refuse this kind of ponzies, I was really glad, because it meant a radical cleanup, and it would be easier for everyone (including new PTC users) to identify the legitimate progams...
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LMFAO! quit raining on stalkys parade over here let amni pay me some more ;D ;D :D :D :D ;)
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LMFAO! quit raining on stalkys parade over here let amni pay me some more ;D ;D :D :D :D ;)
i like rain :D :D
did you not read? his paypal is empty and he lost the other. you will be veeeery lucky if you ever get paid. :D
you could go stalk him a bit but be careful, he has a bad heart :D :D
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you could go stalk him a bit but be careful, he has a bad heart :D :D
...and he's leaving all his members brokenhearted too.. :D ;D :P ::)
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this scammer must love me :D :D he callls me his buddy ;D
he sent me an email today. another load of BULL
he has a problem with people wanting what they paid for. he has a problem reading too ;)
let me repeat this for him one more time ::)
i always thought he was an honest admin until i joined honestbux and bought his upgrade and referals.
i never got the upgrade or the referals and after the site disappeared for weeks without a word i sent him 3 messages asking what was going on. he could not be bothered to send me a reply :'( :'( however my account completely disappeared, no up grade no referals :'( :'( :'(
i am not some noob and i never invest in a site unless i do trust the admin (how wrong can you be) so as an honest, clicking member of many sites i have never been scammed like i was by honestbux.
do i not have a right to complain to paypal? and when paypal says i have the right to get my money back do i not have the right to tell them this scammer keeps changing his paypal??
sorry dear john i think i do have the right ;D just as you have the right to send them ss of my posts. i am sure they already have all my complaints but its nice of you to confirm it for them.
i am quite sure you can find 100 noobs over at ptctalk that still believe all the lies you tell them, even after they having been waiting just as long or longer than me, (try horsey i am sure she will support you)
they might even take the trouble to report your lies to my isp but thats okay, have fun doing it.
i am very pleased i live in holland. it is great to live in a country where we have freedom of speech.
it must be awful to live in a country where posting about scam on forums or reporting them to paypal is considered fraudulent activity :'(
edit: sorry to disappoint you i dont bet and i was not a member at any of alkinoos site until just last week. then i joined the clickers but i didnt click. i only bought some links and linked them to this topic.
Guess what? i actually got what i paid for ;D
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texmexmarketing@gmail.com
sales@maderitehosting.com
texmexsales@gmail.com
webmaster@honestbux.com
acapulcotriste@yahoo.com
Does he have any other PP account besides the ones above?
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i have reported those alicia but i have no doubt he has more ;D ;D he has been having paypal problems just as long as most ptc sites but he just keeps opening new paypals every time
does anyone here know what happened to latinbux and latinptc? they seem to have disappeared too ???
i know a lot of people do not support www.gptboycott.com and it has no official capacity but they do compile a great list of scam sites.
i do support them and i added a complaint about dishonestbux, i hope anyone else who has been scammed by dishonestbux will do the same thing.
if they receive 10 complaints dishonestbux will be added to the boycottlist and all noobs will be warned not to trust this scammer ever again :D
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I'm not sure, I think he said he sold them to some JJ ??? The sites were worthless anyway well, like all of his sites ;D
Thanks for the info about www.gptboycott.com (http://www.gptboycott.com) I didn't know about them, hope that works ;)
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ok let me clarify a couple of things here so the story is straight and clear..
1- i never answered on this forum before because even though i am a member at ptctalk and heard itr mentioned i never came and looked but once i think.
2:clickmonster is not owned by me i started it up and is being run by my mom debbie.
3:i started busy up after honest bux started failing in hopes that the problems of honest could be resolved using a less hackable script and i could recover and pay users on honestbux and restore the site to whatit was.
4: sabbie use your brain do you think getting accounts froze will help you get your money every dime thats come into honest the last couple of weeks has gone right back to users because i personally am broke due to spending every dime i had trying to salvage honest for christs sake i even sold my network to jj for next to nothing to make a round of payouts.
5: yes we used several paypal accounts on honest trying to get by while paypal not only limited the accounts but sent us the famous we no longer desire yopu as a customer email.
facts is honest a scam No its not Is it a bussiness venture gone sour? Yes it is
have i gone and run and hid? No im there every day trying to scratch money from wherever to make a few payouts here and tehre until my attorney cant get paypal to release the funds they have.
has the site shut down?No it hasnt we did eliminate the self sponsored ads to try and bring debt down some as any business would.
you say honestbux hack was a scam ok if server wasnt hacked what happened to hotrodclicks.com dinoclicks.com latinptc a ads only site by the way. southernclicks.com latinbux which had no debt.
clicksrus and 5 or 6 more sites that arent showing anymore that had no debt werent behind werent in trouble guess wht they were erased right along with honestbux they didnt hack out shared hosting account they hacked our 1and1 root server and via it reached our ftp backup at 1and1 as well.
so sit here with your personal vendetta sabbie and cause us as much trouble as you want but guess what that wont get you any closer to your money. what would have got you closer to your money you messed up this is only post ill make in this forum as the whole thing has left a bad taste in my mouth as well as it has to many admins.
Stalking how would you feel because a user called you scam got all worked up and tried to get all your accounts locked up. I ask you that because youve been around awhile and are a admin what happens if you suspend somebody for cheating or whatever and they come after you would that be right.
Any one that codones that type of activity has no right in the ptc world and should not be looked up to but booed out of the community.S o scream scam call me names post funny lil pictures of me do whatever you wish but the truth is im still around still showing my face every day and still trying to work out the problems at honestbux so i can walk away with a clean concious that i did my best and everybody got theyre money back.
oh and stalky i apologize for canceling your payment other day on busy but i was a little upset with yours and others posts but you will be paid in sundays payouts.
and sabbie as far as im concerned you stay banned from any site i ever make and there are several admins that are in agreement with me and im not speaking of ptctalk admins..... anyone that is that unscrupulous doesnt deserve to be a member of any site.Do you really think u hurt me with your actions sabbie no who you hurt is your friends here and elsewhere by making it more difficult for us to pay them and others thats all.
last but not least lol worthless sites you werent calling them worthless when you were getting paid which was up untill the time i sold them to jj to help save honestbux.
In conclusion i will say this i didnt come here to argue i came to tell my side of the story and get some facts straight.this past week we made a round of payouts via alertpay on honest not sure if memebers here were paid as we went down the list as they fell.
this wekend i have made some via egold because we had some money left oover in egold and i paid anyone that was in the list and asked for that.
Everyone that has asked for replacements of refs via site have recieved them and almost all the upgrades are replaced as well.We did it via site so i wouldnt have to login to everyones account and breach theyre privacy.(Rofl im really going to suspend people for doing what i requested jeeze get a grip.)
in closing think what you want tomorrow is another day and i will still be around showing my face apologizing and trying to scrape something from the rubble of failedbux(not dishonest)oh one more comment guess how much i earned on honest sabbie exactly -$3128 and thats a negative sign that means im exact;ly $3128 in the hole at this moment.so wow i really scammed everybody and ran off with the money......go after velocity admin i cashout the real scammers and leave us little guys alone for petes sake.
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Whoa long post. You should've come over here earlier, we allow free speech on this forum.
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Well i wonder why you changed your network name from Lantin to MadeRight ?
What about all them members that never got their account back on honestbux? Not to mention all the earnings on those accounts and all the earnings on the other sites that you sold off ?
I lost count of how many people and earnings that was lost from honestbux alone not counting your other sites you sold off before you even bothered fixing the problems of deleted payout requests.
You say the new site ClickMonster is run by your mother. What ever happen to MexClicks that was run by your daughter ? Seems to me your just using members of your family as excuses and to hide behind.
I am just one of the accounts you never bothered adding back to your site.
(http://www.bestpaidgpt.com/misc-images/honestbux.jpg)
All honest owners back up daily if not twice a day when this is a business and money is involved. And this excuse of they hit your home PC is just an absolute joke just like your network.
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Hey All
Sabbie
YOU GO GIRL!!!! Good work and well done :) :) :)
Long winded post i think Black Thursday ::)
As for you lalo you made your bed lie in it. Dont try and make yourself look to be the one who is the HONEST good guy cause we all know you are NOT!!!
You have scammed many of us and thats exactly what you did. Dont try and get round it with the same BS oh i was hacked oh i am sick heard it all before its all BS!!!
You made no attempt to pay me or others what was owed on our accounts at Clicko. Instead you tried to get your advertisers to make me feel bad and then tried to put me down by calling me names and swearing ect at me in a public forum which in the end made you look worse them me i can tell you :D
Anyways i dont give a crap about my money it was only 50cents. All i can say is you deserve everything you are getting and i hope you new lot of sites go down just as fast as the Latin PTC network did.
You might still have a few supports but those of us who are not IDIOTS know the truth and will stay clear of anything that has anything to do with YOU!
Anyone who sells a site to JJ and thinks they have made a good choice is a BLOOD?Y IDIOT! Look what he done to your sites and look what he did to Pacific clicks and you support him i have seen you posts backing him up i guess once you are done suckering members back in you will do the same all over again.
Your a Scammer and always will be ;D
Sabby has done a fab job with what she has done i support her 500% Just wish i had thought of doing the same :D
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LOL thanks funky just things that need to be said ;)
ANOTHER long one blackthursday :D
Please let me clarify a few things for you mr scam
1 i never asked you to come to this forum, they are trying to keep it scam free, you should be banned. i simply asked you to reply to the 3 support tickets i sent.
2 clickmonster belongs to mommy?? can she even see the screen with her glaucoma? real smart move using family members to hide behind. Do they even know what your up to?
3 started busy after honestbux went sour? to pay users on honestbux? sounds like a ponzi to me
what site is going to be used for the payouts on busy? :D
4 no i don't think getting your paypals frozen will get me back my investment. .i do think other people need to be warned and as long as your accounts are frozen you are not able to accept any payments
so that is a good thing, its called damage control. thats the reason paypal froze it in the first place
i agree any business can go sour.
i only complained when you deleted my account without a reason after i had invested
thats scam it has nothing to do with business gone sour
guess what? paypal is not going to release any funds you may or may not have. at least not for the next 180 days.
LOL@ your attorney. always thought attorneys are very expensive. what are you using to pay them with?? My money? sorry its not enough, you need to scam some more
i already knew i lost my investment the day you cancelled my account so yes i will sit here and warn as many people as i can. 11500 so far, many more to follow ;D
the only people you are paying are the posters at ptctalk.
stupid question to ask stalky. any owner would be upset if a cheat came after him but we both know i didnt cheat.
i am not the only person to lose an account you deleted a lot of accounts without a reason.
first time i heard of an admin cancelling a payout because of a forum post telling me to leave you alone.
as for being banned on your sites?? LOL anyone joining your sites now needs his head examined..
i can't wait to see what other admins will ban me. haven't found any yet but if i do i am sure they will be members of ptctalk.
you do have a problem with the truth. i have never clicked a link on any of your sites and i have never been paid on any of your sites, please feel free to post proof as soon as you finish making it
i did use a few of them for advertising but i wont be doing that anymore, i think you would deny the links i set up :D :D
in conclusion i dont think i hurt any of my friends as most of them are not members at ptctalk and won't be paid anyway.
if knowing me is a reason for you to not pay them that just proves my point:YOU ARE SCAM
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hi lalo, i dont know what were upset about, i never slandered your sites or you, maybe the comments i made against ptctalk..and because your hangin out in there lately idk..
but for the record i havent had any problems with lalos sites
i would much rather have you as an admin of a site rather than mr.ronnie or one of the teen scammers from ptctalk....
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Well i wonder why you changed your network name from Lantin to MadeRight ?
What about all them members that never got their account back on honestbux? Not to mention all the earnings on those accounts and all the earnings on the other sites that you sold off ?
I lost count of how many people and earnings that was lost from honestbux alone not counting your other sites you sold off before you even bothered fixing the problems of deleted payout requests.
You say the new site ClickMonster is run by your mother. What ever happen to MexClicks that was run by your daughter ? Seems to me your just using members of your family as excuses and to hide behind.
I am just one of the accounts you never bothered adding back to your site.
(http://www.bestpaidgpt.com/misc-images/honestbux.jpg)
All honest owners back up daily if not twice a day when this is a business and money is involved. And this excuse of they hit your home PC is just an absolute joke just like your network.
you aacount wasnt added back because u didnt reregister umm it changed bnames because i no longer own latinptc netwoork i cant call it something that i dont own rights too see this is what im talking about stop and think about your questions.Lol butoh well i didnt expect anything less but from here so think what ya want to think.
Itsfunky to answer you i will put it this simple i dont think theres an admin here that wouldnt delete a abusive member amember that fails referring host check98 out of 100 clicks or a member that that insults and starts arguments with major site advertisers..
sabbie you say i deleted your account thats not true we restored honest with a very old backup i found on my daughters computer that she made while i was sick that is why alot of accounts werent restored did you ever email me no did you use contact form on site maybe not sure theres over 5000 messages it was almost impossible to wade through them all.
the ignorant comments about hiding behind family well thats simple look at the alertpay on busy ummm business verified with mine and my wifes name and alrtpay on click monster business and verified withmymothers name wow i guess alertpay lets you verify with somebody elses id yeah right ok hwatever i didnt come to argue and i should be banned why because i came to shed some light on your false crusade whats a matter dont want thew truth to be shown dont wont anyone to make you look silly as you truly are why ban me sabbie if theres nothing you want hidden i didnt insult you i didnt curse you i made a very decent and truthful post and banning for no reason censoring arent those the very things i hear you complain that talkptc does kind of contradictory isnt it.
To all those that read this that havent got theyre account back at honest its very simple reregister if you purchased refs or upgrades resubmit them and you will recieve them.
think abouti t sabbie i opened site back up knowing people wouldnt trust it and there wouldnt be any sales the 8 purchases that have been made since it was reopened were refunded until i could get site back up to speed.
Believe what you want about the hack but point is i didnt throw my hands up in the air and leave the site down no i didnt.
and sabbie i didnt delete any accounts thats a lie and i will call you on it the accounts dissapeared because we restored with a backup account we had over 7000 members in one week and the backup was over a week old thats why so many accounts were lost.
Your bitter i can understand that i dont question you reason for doing things i question your methods.
just like alkinooos he contacted me the first time threatening to have mybusiness shut down calling me names threatening to have me hacked etc etc. I will tell you what the end of that was he was told bold and upright to f off and that if he wanted his money back all he had to do was say lalo i want a refund without threats and guess what to this day he hasnt couldnt say 5 words just rant and rave make threats etc.
sokeep ranting it doesnt matter sabbie and sorry i cant help it our attorney is my brother in law rofl.....
so keep ranting sabbie only you know the reason why.It will not solve your problems and sabbie one question now if i were a scammer why would i honestly still be around all it takes is a call to my isp and a complete ip change new paypal accounts and alertpay etc and guess what im a new owner no one has ever heard of.Lol as far as sites go i resell aurora i have 20 or 30 sites already designed and could be launched tomorrow if i am a scammer why dont i have 20 sites going right now ripping people off left and right i tell you why because thats an absurd idea.Your mad for losing your money your mad because i answered all your rants with the truth and your on a personal vendetta you dont want things fixed you dont want anyone to get paid you just want to be able to gripe and complain rant and whine and cause problems.thats it.
As far as deleted payments at clicko etc ummm im sorry but clicko paid out untiul the week i sold it the only people didnt get paid are ones that jj deleted because they didnt follow his rules.prove otherwise and i will personally raise hell at him for you to get your money back......
in sumation i will say this.
sabbie i was mad at you before but no longer in a way i think its sad to see someone who gets so mad theyre judgement is clouded.So clouded that they feel they must overlook the obvious to be right.So i pity you there was a easy way to get your money back you didnt chose that way.you instead chose to waste more money proving what you thought was the truth.
Me a scammwer as i said am i signing up under false names and promoting new sites? no nor will I.
Think what you want about click monster i have nothing to do with it now.
is busy clicks being sold and me scamming otherrs with a new site?no im actually paying out yet again there why because even after alkl your ranting and trying to destroy me people are still making money and so is site and guess what thats without paypal lol......
and iw ill say again if anyone lost theyre account on honest feel free to reregister if you made a purchase refs etc then rerequest them you will not be in violation of terms for that if you had pending payouts before i apologize i have no way of proving what your stats were so its kind of hard to pay it to you.
and ii will say this i do not want any of you topurchase anything on honest nor buy refs ads anything so please dont do it what i do want is for you to try and get your balance back to what it was so you can be paid........
and my challenge to everyone in this forum is this think for your self analise the facts and not hearsay review them and make an unbiased decision and if you feel it weas scam or whatever then i apologize because it never was my intention to defraud anyone .
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thank you stalky me and you have talked alot before you know what my plans in the industry were.i guess i will never get there i must face that and move on biggest mistake in my life was opening a bux site why didnt you give me a swift kick when i did lol....
and actually wasnt sabbies post that made me mad was the raining on my parade post seeing it and somebodies comical picture after reading this topic well you know were all human and let our anger get the best of ius its nothing big it is when we let our anger blind us tot he truth and the error in our ways.And even worse when we start justrifying stupid acts because we are convinced we are the only person that can be right lol.....
for the records i messed up on hopnestbux it got out of hand the problems had some help but in the end i blame myself for it does this make me a scammer i say no.......
ummm sabbie whos lying
you said:
you do have a problem with the truth. i have never clicked a link on any of your sites and i have never been paid on any of your sites, please feel free to post proof as soon as you finish making it
i did use a few of them for advertising but i wont be doing that anymore, i think you would deny the links i set up
ok but yet you claim you were scammed umm in what way if you never clicked never did anything on my sites except advertise umm did you get ads that werent placed i dont think so with that statement you say it all then what is your complaint..... please explain this to us all what was your support questions about then could you post a screen shot of the three you made or any emails you sent to me.
I dont understand you say youve never clicked on one of my sites did you buy a upograde on a site to not click or did you buy refs to be on a site where hyyoumust be active to keep account or ??? im a little confused here maybe you could enlighten then how honestbuxc scammed you in what way or was this post you just made a lie and if it was then maybe all of your accusations are lies as wel....
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after the hack things i re signed honest and ordered my premium and purchased refferals without paying,he gave me thats at 1 hour......
i get 30$ before the site losed its database and now i'm waiting 25$too
i dont know this case like u,i think all th people there have relations at past,i am newbie dont know old stories
i only want to say my thoughts.....i dont think this site was scam but i think admin is failed and when i read long posts i see he have reasons for failing....i think he must close this site and all the story must finish....
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thank you ptche for showing some of the truth and not just rants.....
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i never answered on this forum before because even though i am a member at ptctalk and heard itr mentioned i never came and looked but once i think.
You surely prefer to fish noobs on PTScam forum, that's what all the freaking scammers do. Dishonest admins are not allowed here (well, except one, I think...)
clickmonster is not owned by me i started it up and is being run by my mom debbie.
LOL
i started busy up after honest bux started failing in hopes that the problems of honest could be resolved using a less hackable script and i could recover and pay users on honestbux and restore the site to whatit was.
What about making daily back ups, huh? Oh, well, you would have no excuses then, yeah, sorry (LMAO)
yes we used several paypal accounts on honest
Neither legit nor honest... ::)
facts is honest a scam No its not Is it a bussiness venture gone sour? Yes it is
If you delete "No its not Is it a bussiness venture gone sour" then that line is true.
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you say you sold latinptc networks so why does your kind email (posted above) still say latinptc networks? did you sell it since you sent me the email 3 days ago?
well thanks for finally letting me know why my account disappeared. i can even understand you not having time to reply to 5000 messages but it seems to me that would have been a good time to send out an emai to explain things to all your members??
as i didnt have an account i would not have received the email but i do visit almost every ptc forum except one. someone would have posted it and i would have known what was happening.
i am not bothered with your alertpay yet. i have not mentioned alertpay once. anything i said is about paypal. i paid for the refs and upgrades to an unverified paypal registered to a miranda aleen.
you can call it a false crusade as much as you like. however you choose to look at it i paid $69 for referals and upgrade and i didnt get either.
in my book that makes you scam and scam does not belong here. Scam gets banned, no contradiction in that
just like alkinoos?? sorry i never contacted you threatening to have your sites hacked and i definitely dont believe alkinoos did either.. i dont know how to hack and i dont know any hackers. from what i read today you were warning people you would be hacked 2 days before the actual event ??? ???
you have a problem with jj too?? i havent mentioned payouts on clicko anywhere? just your 2 cents? post it in the off topic
must be the medication, please try to focus
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last but not least lol worthless sites you werent calling them worthless when you were getting paid which was up untill the time i sold them to jj to help save honestbux.
did you not ask about the sites you sold to save honestbux? this is about those sites, not about honestbux. i joined those sites to use for advertising, i never clicked a link, i never upgraded, i never bought referals and i was never paid
your terms do not include any kind of activity requirement and as you were taking my money without having to pay me you would not have deleted me even if it was in your terms
i was scammed on honestbux. i joined honestbux april 7th, bought refs and upgrade april 7th. clicked for about 3 or 4 days and that is it, honestbux disappeared and when it finally came back i had no account.
i did not chargeback until the 22nd. had you replied to any of my messages or sent out an email i would not have made a chargeback and there would not be a problem :D
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finally a calm response i can understand not likethe ignorant one before yours sabbie which i wont even acknowledge i understand your anger and i understand the anger of alot of members. I couldnt post instructions to the members in our forum if you will remember correctly the forum went down with the site and server so i made a new one at maderitegpt.com You asked why i never emailed members good question!but i ask you this have you ever seen the inside of a bux script ask some of the other admins where those have that option at they dont thats one of the reason the scripts horrible.I mailed several of the purchasers that had purchased telling them what had happened but i will admit that some were missed and yes us dancing paypal aorund was wrong but at the time there were people trying to destroy the network .This isnt made up its fact alkinoos email i poisted it on the other forum for the whole world to see he himself wrote that he made a bet for $100 euros it was scam and joined to prove us wrong and his email threatened and was very agresive in nature .......
But to this day he screams scam at us and has to htis day not said the 4 words that would have got his money back (can i get a refund).
now will say this every person that has resigned up on honestbux and purchased that rerequested theyre refs and upgrades have been given those i may have missed a couple of upgrades but as they have requested via email etc i have restored them if i hada backup id glady restore it now to stop the problems but fact is i dont.
one question you claim you didnt know to resign up or you didnt know what was going on ummmthere has been this message on top of page since site came back sabbie
If you Cant login it may be That your account is one of the ones that hasnt been restored yet we are working on this problem you may create another account and keep clicking and we will transfer any earnings to backup when it is restored or you may wait till all accounts have been restored however you wish.
and this in the news to the right
17th April 2008
We Have managed to get site back up we are iun the process of restoring users accounts that were lost due to the Problems so if your balance number of refs etc are off dont worry we are working hard on this so we ask your patience in the matter i have hired a data recovery agency to rescue all the data from old site and get everything back to normal but i am still waiting on them.
and dont say i just put that up there cause people even from this forum have seen that since site came back online lol you say email users umm with a backup that dropped sites users from 13k + to 2000 not sure all the wouldve gotten our emails would they now.
be angry sabbie that is your right i probably would be in your shoes but still gives you no right to insult us briong our family into the picture causing them problems as well.
and as far as finding news about site google is your friend as always am i a scammer just because i chose to post at a forum where a lot of my paying members are at i would hope not i really would.
what i dont understand is why this became a ptctalk talkptc issue anyways im a member there i have friends there but im no admin or mod or anything there.So where does it figure in the picture....
Alli can say on the subject is this hot heads never fix problems i am doing my best to straighten the site out now if you want your money back sabbie all you have or even had to do was ask but to this day have you even tried to email the account u paid to lets be sincere did because if you did i never recieved the email i have every one of those emails forwarded to my main account so i wouldve recieved it i answer 20 emails everyday on honestbux ill also go in accounts and show you with screenshots where we refunded alot of money to people therefore the account is in 0 on the one you refered to sabbie its in 0 because we refunded all that money to users.....and by7 the way there is a way to get paypal before 180 days its called an injuction to show cause sabbie its issued by a judge and if they cant show cause the money is released within 14 days as long as the 60 day credit card chargeback time is up.....
but also one thing about paypal they dont issue chargebacks on tangible goods all u do making chargebacks is caoll attention to a account but im sure you already knew that...... i wont argue with you anymore on the point or no one else for that matter.im working hardto settle all debts on honest and will continue to you can do 1 of 3 things sabbie rejoin site get your refs and upgrades ask in a decent tone for a refund via email or just keep complaining and griping and stand there with your hands empty thats how simple it is your decision.
and for the record i dont see much difference between this forum and ptctalk same stupid statements about scams etc same crap neither one of you will become to the size of getpaidforum if you continue waging war between members like you do.....this is not an insult just a observation is all........
lol and on the email latinptc question lol i just hadnt ever changed it thanks for pointing it out. as far as now that being a lie as well look at the paypal accounton those sabbie see whos they are....look at the domain who is its simple as that lol unles i changed my name to jeff johnson and live in georgia now i dont think theyre mine.........
somebody asked why i defend jj ill tell you why because when i needed him when all was falling apart he was the only one there to help so yteah i defend him i may not agree on some thing he does and have stated so but if he had justifiable reason for something i will defend him.....
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i dont think the post made by BRL is ignorant, it seems very precise and to the point, just about sums it up in 5 short sentences
you know what? i am done with this thread.
all the facts are stated, people just need to read the thread to see the truth.
you can twist and turn any way you like. it has nothing to to with sick your mother, brother, sister, uncle, alkinoos, ptctalk or talkptc
the bottom line is i paid for referals and upgrades on honestbux and my account disappeared.. i did not want my money back, i wanted what i paid for.
i sent you 3 messages before i contacted paypal.
no i will not rejoin honestbux because i try to stay away from scam.
as i have already asked nicely 3x i will not send you a nice email asking for what is rightfully mine.
i just sincerly hope you have one shred of decency left and that you will at least use my money to pay some of your other victims
will somebody please lock this topic ;D