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Title: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on April 16, 2010, 06:38:54 PM
doing a little try to see how good are neobux bots yesterday i invested 2.5$ in renting 10 bots
today this is how the bots clicked so far :

(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/828/neo1f.jpg)

i will post how the bots click daily or each 2 days
so by the end of the month we can see if renting referrals on neo is profitable
or just a waste of money

- A new try was posted here :
http://www.talkptc.com/index.php?topic=16099.msg106663#msg106663
check it for those who read this topic for first time and might plan to rent referrals on neo
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: needmoney on April 16, 2010, 06:56:04 PM
Wow, they almost look like real people  :D

none of that "2 clicks per day" crap  ;D
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on April 17, 2010, 08:12:48 PM

2nd day with bots

(http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3849/neo2z.jpg) (http://img65.imageshack.us/i/neo2z.jpg/)

well 30 cents so far guess it might be good  :)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on April 18, 2010, 09:03:17 PM
3rd day and going

here's the stats

(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2607/neo3c.jpg) (http://img130.imageshack.us/i/neo3c.jpg/)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: igotnousername on April 20, 2010, 08:18:48 AM
Neobux has bots,,,

I had 5 rented referrals
after one day

#1- clicked 2 ads
#2- 1
#3- 0
#4- 3
#5- 2

Thats just for one days is now an example of a bot..
Humans dont leave 1 ad unclicked... that is just plain Stupid..

two day
#1- 3
#2- 4
#3- 1
#4- 2
#5- 0


Sorry i dont have pictures to proved I got Banned from Neobux for no reason at all
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on April 25, 2010, 09:26:04 AM

here's the stats after mostly 10 days

(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/8815/neo5.jpg) (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/neo5.jpg/)

we see that some referrals didn't click for nearly 4 days
which means they are in vacation
and some referrals clicked 4 ads only  :o

so by calculations for 1/3 of the month
i might not be able even to get back what i paid for renting referrals
but 20 days more still ahead
so lets wait and see
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: PapaiMark on April 25, 2010, 09:08:50 PM
Nice. Keep posting.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on April 26, 2010, 10:18:50 PM
well today a sudden increase in activity
more clicks
if clicks remained in this standard it's possible to make profit

(http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/8784/neo6.jpg) (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/neo6.jpg/)

still 18 days left
so more time before i can tell
let's wait and see
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: PapaiMark on April 26, 2010, 10:31:57 PM
He will see this post and try to make a good impression.
Good luck  ;)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: chan2020 on April 27, 2010, 06:22:29 AM
I finished that course before sixth months.  Let's see if anything newly added.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on April 29, 2010, 07:21:07 PM

here's the stats for today
15 more days left and not much activity from referrals
(http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/6523/neo7.jpg)

i don't think any real member would miss clicking in neobux daily
 ;D so bots need to be charged to click more

I finished that course before sixth months.  Let's see if anything newly added.

it's non ending story  ::)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: chan2020 on May 01, 2010, 06:01:40 AM
Quote


it's non ending story  ::)

Every story has it's end.  But what does matter is how badly the end comes.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 02, 2010, 08:01:20 AM

inactivity . that's the best word for what's going on so far  ;D

(http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/1425/neo8.jpg)

nearly 13 days remaining , so the little waiting game
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: farhanpanhwar on May 02, 2010, 08:20:55 AM
their referrals are bots...you know why...their average of clicking in 10-20days is 1 and average of 20-30 is 2-4and average of 0-10 is 1-2-3..:-)...

I have rented referrals on neobux 6-8 times...i have got 2 golden bots as well...
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 04, 2010, 09:15:39 AM
that's for today

(http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5315/neo9.jpg)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: chan2020 on May 05, 2010, 03:55:31 AM
You atleast need 500 clicks in total to get your investment back.  11 more days to go
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 07, 2010, 06:32:53 AM

8 days remaining , less activity

(http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/1277/neo10.jpg)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 11, 2010, 10:38:06 AM

4 days remaining
and check clicks rate , not good at all

(http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1850/neo11.jpg)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 13, 2010, 09:17:32 PM
today
more activity but still losing from the idea of renting refs

(http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/2986/neo12.jpg)

maybe we can judge this study in the last day
and see if it was a mistake or a good try
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: chan2020 on May 14, 2010, 07:05:49 AM
Those 6 refs. are convincing you to rent again :D
Btw, You are going to finish the course.  Certificate will be issued soon. ;D
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 15, 2010, 01:27:23 PM
Those 6 refs. are convincing you to rent again :D
Btw, You are going to finish the course.  Certificate will be issued soon. ;D

no they don't , they are away beyond activity
you rent a ref for 30 days
it's supposed to click 4 ads daily
so 30 x 4 = ????
do you see any of those ref at least reaching 50% of the supposed clicks
no
so no renting again

and for today

last day in bots heaven
there will be another screen shot at the end of this day too

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3797/neo13.jpg)

so today when it's done we see how much i earned
and if it's useful to rent refs on neo or it's just another bad idea
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 16, 2010, 01:52:32 AM

final day
and nearly refs will expire soon
here's the screen shot for my rented refs in neobux after 30 days of this try

(http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9044/neo14.jpg)

with simple math
normal member in neo gets 4 ads daily
in 30 days
makes member's clicks 120 click per month

as you can see the highest referral clicks in my case was 46 ads
which is less than 50% of average member
so rented referrals weren't active

now on the other had i paid 2.5 $ to rent 10 referrals
and because i earn .005$ per referral
my referrals should make 500 clicks
so i earn back what i paid
but as you see in the screen shot my referrals clicked 369 clicks only
so i didn't even get back what i paid
and renting referrals made me lose money

so the final conclusion
renting referrals on neobux is very bad idea
it will waste your money so avoid it
try getting real referrals
and whatever you hear or people tell you
don't rent referrals , because they are bots , not real members
they will click when admin wants
and stop clicking when he doesn't want

i hope this topic becomes useful to most members and they learn something from it
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: clickaholic on May 16, 2010, 07:45:12 AM
+1

thankx for very usefull topic  :)

i will not rent neobux refs
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: PapaiMark on May 16, 2010, 07:53:37 AM
Nice job. Congrats. +1. Hope your little loss and the work you show here helps all TalkPTC members and... and others too.  ;)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: mynameiscindere on May 18, 2010, 08:45:36 AM
Are you still in Neobux?
Or got suspended for TOS violation ???

Directed to the thread creator :)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: chan2020 on May 18, 2010, 10:03:21 AM

120

Glad to see that you have found the answer  :police:
I also appreciate you for sacrificing yourself in order to prove the proven theory.
But why to do a dirt which is already being known as a dirt? ???
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: earningonline on May 18, 2010, 04:02:32 PM
Those 6 refs. are convincing you to rent again :D
Btw, You are going to finish the course.  Certificate will be issued soon. ;D

no they don't , they are away beyond activity
you rent a ref for 30 days
it's supposed to click 4 ads daily
so 30 x 4 = ????
do you see any of those ref at least reaching 50% of the supposed clicks
no
so no renting again

and for today

last day in bots heaven
there will be another screen shot at the end of this day too

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3797/neo13.jpg)

so today when it's done we see how much i earned
and if it's useful to rent refs on neo or it's just another bad idea

I completely agree with your point that renting referrals at neobux rather makes you lose your money,IF you have made no investment. i.e If you are a standard member,you will definitely lose money.I too had an experience like yours .Only that i had 3 refs.If you look at golden member point of view...you have had a profit from every member.Ranging from 5 cents to 21 cents.But this too is pretty low.So its kinda if you are lucky,you get a good member (or bot) as your referral.I had one referral who had an average of 3.
BTW..sorry for quoting you :P  ;D
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on May 18, 2010, 04:19:11 PM
Are you still in Neobux?
Or got suspended for TOS violation ???

Directed to the thread creator :)

they will suspend me when they find my account , but not so far
so i'm still a member


120

Glad to see that you have found the answer  :police:
I also appreciate you for sacrificing yourself in order to prove the proven theory.
But why to do a dirt which is already being known as a dirt? ???

thanks and i hope all members here make use of this topic
maybe someone should lose a little so others can learn  :angel:
 ;D
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: ggeorghe on May 18, 2010, 07:18:58 PM
Ayman 20068 you r 100% right. I also got bad xperience with rented reffs on neo (I m standard member). I rent 40 reffs and max av. was 1.4 clicks/day (only 3-4 reffs). Its hard to believe that someone who want to earn, click 1.4 ad in one day.  By some calculations rented reff will be profitable if got 1.67+ click/day (4 Standard). I lose 3$ by rented reffs so now I know that clicks r filtered, so you must upgrade to golden if want earn some money.  :P
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: jiagsunod on June 03, 2010, 04:57:21 AM
+1

Thank you for the experiment. My NeoBux got suspended for no reason, the admin do not even reply to the emails I sent. I wasn't even able to finish the 30 days of my rented referrals. I only used up to around 20 days, and yes seems like your results were identical with that of mine.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Paas on June 14, 2010, 05:32:20 PM
Jeez, my ref was going to be recycled on the 14th day, but then on the 13th day, he suddenly clicked. Strange uh?
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: hotshot8 on June 19, 2010, 10:25:44 AM
^what a coincidence. Yes, I think if you are a standard member, renting referrals is not a good idea. Too bad, I transferred $5 to my rental balance and rented 10 because I was originally planning to use the other $2.5 left on my balance to rerent and upgrade to gold but I guess I'm too late to read this post. :(
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: ptcfcd on July 28, 2010, 11:29:18 PM
This is a very informative data, planning to rent but now not anymore...
Thank you very much.

Members be aware.. :o :o :o
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: xmarket88 on August 13, 2010, 06:58:36 AM
Very good thread congratz
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: AdamArclight on August 21, 2010, 05:38:53 AM
thx.. nice thread
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: aranubis on September 07, 2010, 12:28:05 PM
I don 't think that s true i have friend which is Golden member and he have 300+ reffs and i must tell you  he get good profit and he is not only sitting and watching how reffs don t click he recycle the innactive renew the active so with your calculation if you were golden you was going to be 1,20$ahead with 300 refs that is 36$ ahead and that's only if he was like you and didn t recycle the innactive reffs
he told me he make 50$+ for now a month profit
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: goralalgargi on September 07, 2010, 01:02:10 PM
Me also a fan of neobux but I like onbux to.
So freinds, Join, earn and get paid instantly, after reaching the target of $2 ,without waiting even a minute, from :
 
edit: ref links removed
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: bobsky on September 08, 2010, 01:33:28 PM
I  let expired all my rented refs and did not rent again because i will lose more money in rented refs! I am so lucky I discover Incrasebux and a lot of members from neo joined also to incrasebux with 2.0 up rented ref avg.

Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: asparagus on September 23, 2010, 02:59:40 PM
Me also a fan of neobux but I like onbux to.
So freinds, Join, earn and get paid instantly, after reaching the target of $2 ,without waiting even a minute, from :
 
edit: ref links removed

Oww... man!!!  :bang :bang :bang
I thinks those of you who think onbux is better than neobu... should atleast check this:http://www.talkptc.com/index.php?topic=21053.0
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: mitkodelibaltov on October 02, 2010, 04:02:21 PM
neobux refs suck... i have tried this too and stopped because i don`t want to lose anymore
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Dominic15 on November 13, 2010, 12:22:11 AM
True but I dont think you are gonna get anywhere renting 4-10 refferels. I have rented 245 refferels so far in the last 4 1/2 weeks. Since I started October 9th, 2010 I went golden around October 19th,2010. I just rented 100 refferels about 5 days ago and I have invested probably 145 including golden. I have gotten back 60.00$ so far in 4 1/2 weeks. Only been golden for about 3 weeks now. I noticed when I first started renting these refferels (or bots) I had great clicking for almost 2 weeks and went dead but today they have picked up. Most members will probably never make a big profit because most dont have money to invest but I see a few people who have made thousands in the success stories forum. I think its all about investing and patience. Your not gonna get anywhere with 10 refferels. In plus why not try. The most is you loose a few bucks  you know? Have to watch refferels constantly and make sure you head for the cheaper extending days. Will post how I am doing in the coming weeks as well. I am also golden on Onbux. You know I think thats how neobux makes money. So many new people joining and not wanting to invest or rent very little refferels and they loose money to pay the big investors. Onbux refferels in the last week are alot more active than neobux but I remember Neobux refferels being this active when I first registered and got 100 refferels.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: htg123 on November 13, 2010, 08:11:17 AM
if you were golden members than you will be in profit
so its simply shows no profit for standard members
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: wickedziK on November 23, 2010, 10:47:04 PM
my rented referrals clicks real good... avg 2.66 on onbux ...
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: cubster on November 23, 2010, 11:13:10 PM
my rented referrals clicks real good... avg 2.66 on onbux ...

This topic is about Neobux
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Paiden on January 17, 2011, 03:21:37 PM
Thanks for this info  :-bd
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: rucha on January 21, 2011, 01:33:42 PM


 superb job admin.. thanks
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: jalgrattur on February 02, 2011, 06:59:01 PM
I've done the study with neobux too, but I rented only three referrals, but the result was same - I lost my money. I spent $0.66, but earned only $0.52. Today I started some new experiments with other PTC sites, like  onBux, vynBux, vcBux, Globobux. I hope that these results are much better. It will take 30 days to get the answer. I will post the results in new thread, but you can also find it from my blog:
Edited: you canīt post your blog here.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: ryansjones on April 27, 2011, 06:47:30 AM
That is an interesting study.  I tried rentint referrals once at neobux a while back, and remembered that some of them were inactive.  Another approach I've been trying for a while is to use "paid to sign up" offers, but the referrals often seem to go inactive too after they join.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: WajeehBJ on June 14, 2011, 01:56:58 PM
can anyone tell me if i can add funds on neobux? like to rent referrals and all that?
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: lubo on June 14, 2011, 07:53:42 PM
At NeoBux they are extremely susceptible to the theme of referrals and bots. They make their members think that it is normal for a real person to click 1 ad per day  =:)). But we all know that our direct referrals (who are real persons) click all the available ads when they click so NeoBux's rented referrals are..... BOTS. See this thread from their forum:

http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/9/213883/I-cant-believe/ (http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/9/213883/I-cant-believe/) :shoot


P.S. In addition bots are programed not to allow a standard member to profit from renting and they give a fixed % profit to upgraded members whatever they do.

Updated 26.06.2011

See this post from the NeoBux forum, it shows perfectly that people are not stupid. I want to emphasize on Admin's explanation, it is really funny  =:))

http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/9/215799/A-little-concerning/ (http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/9/215799/A-little-concerning/)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Iceblock29 on August 14, 2011, 10:20:31 AM
i invested in neobux 25$ so far ,i hope tihs will work
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: hjf040790 on August 20, 2011, 03:42:15 PM
i invested in neobux 25$ so far ,i hope tihs will work
Assuming that this $25 of yours was invested in referral renting, did you invest as a premium member or as a standard member?

Because from what I see and hear, investing on rented referrals as a standard member is a very bad idea.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: iuliugdi on August 23, 2011, 03:42:57 AM
So investing as a premium member is a bad idea,investing as standard member is a very bad idea  ? :)


Quote
An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all.-Oscar Wilde
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: hjf040790 on September 12, 2011, 08:26:13 AM
So investing as a premium member is a bad idea,investing as standard member is a very bad idea  ? :)


Quote
An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all.-Oscar Wilde
In my opinion? Yes.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: lubo on September 17, 2011, 09:26:59 AM
So investing as a premium member is a bad idea,investing as standard member is a very bad idea  ? :)


Quote
An idea that is not dangerous is unworthy of being called an idea at all.-Oscar Wilde
In my opinion? Yes.


Yes, that is a proven fact. I have seen a lot of described experiments showing that you can't make profit with RR at NeoBux. You can see one at the beginning of this topic.

Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: iuliugdi on September 17, 2011, 10:05:47 AM
For a standard member like me Neobux is a waste of time anyway .For example if i go to myLot and i post this message i will earn more money than i earn on Neobux in 24 hours  ::lol
Here is another question .Do they really have bots on Neobux or these are just some names and numbers you`ll get after you pay ?
Because if i pay there for an ad i won`t feel too great if my page will be visited by bots. So do you really think they have bots clicking on ads ?  :)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: lubo on September 19, 2011, 12:25:12 PM
NeoBux's RR are bots for sure. They click 1, 2 or 3 ads per day most of the time but we all know that real people click all available ads when they click. I tried to post a poll at NeoBux's forum with the question "Do your DIRECT REFERRALS click ALL the available ads most of the time (90% or more of the days when they click ads)?" but they locked the thread immediately. You can see it here:

http://www.neobux.com/forum/?/9/213883/I-cant-believe/

I think soon NeoBux will turn into the biggest PTC SCAM ever. Their problem is that they don'e have enough money. That is way they lowered the click rate to $0.001 and scammed a lot of people.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: neobuxtruth on February 05, 2012, 09:30:48 PM
Somebody buy this member a beer. Finally someone who see's the light about Neobux!

Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on February 17, 2012, 07:29:08 PM
a new test for those who still plan to rent on neo :

i rented 5 referrals and paid 1$ for them , these are the referrals stats :
(http://d.localhostr.com/file/Ic2LDYH/RR%20Neo.PNG)

you will see that total referrals clicks = 178 click

so with the rented referrals earnings for fixed ad , each click would be 0.005$ for me
so total earnings from my 5 referrals = 0.89$ so i lost 11 cents in the rented referrals
if those were real referrals , each would click 4 ads daily so 600 for the 5 referrals in 1 month , difference between 178 and 600 is huge
so again , don't rent referrals on neobux
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: ruicarlov on February 28, 2012, 02:22:18 PM
I see a lot of hate for Neobux around here.
I don't think it's strange that people don't click every day.
Not everyone (most of them, really) are so dedicated to PTCs like members of this and other forums. Sometimes they're friends of people who are really into neobux and only click when they have the time.

I have currently 240 referrals, and so far I have an average of 1.5. Since I have them renewed for 240 days, my break even point is 0.933.
So, as you can see, I'm having profit.

In the case mentioned in the post above, if those referrals were renewed for 240 days, there would be profit, since only one of them is below 0.933.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: lubo on April 15, 2012, 10:49:32 PM
I see a lot of hate for Neobux around here.
I don't think it's strange that people don't click every day.
Not everyone (most of them, really) are so dedicated to PTCs like members of this and other forums. Sometimes they're friends of people who are really into neobux and only click when they have the time.

I have currently 240 referrals, and so far I have an average of 1.5. Since I have them renewed for 240 days, my break even point is 0.933.
So, as you can see, I'm having profit.

In the case mentioned in the post above, if those referrals were renewed for 240 days, there would be profit, since only one of them is below 0.933.


I thing you should read more carefully. Nobody has said the problem is that referrals don't click every day. The problem is that when they are active they click only 1 or 2 ads and never all available. Don't you think that is strange? ;)

Please post about your profit after 240 days, it is too early for conclusions now. Average of 1.5 is a bad finger at all.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: bleach5220 on September 08, 2012, 07:21:05 AM
These are my Direct referrals real people between September 5 to 7th 2012, NOT rented referrals...

And not everyone manages to click the orange ones, or sometimes only do 3 or 2. So it's not really much different than rented types.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2j11lhg.png)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Ayman on September 08, 2012, 08:13:39 AM
These are my Direct referrals real people between September 5 to 7th 2012, NOT rented referrals...

And not everyone manages to click the orange ones, or sometimes only do 3 or 2. So it's not really much different than rented types.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2j11lhg.png)

This is totally wrong comparison for multiple reasons , in your screen shot all members who signed up seems to be just new members who signed up less than 1 or 2 days , and it's very common that new members would stop clicking if they found that their earnings are low as in neo ads changed to be 0.001 so with 10  or 20 ads mostly earnings would be 0.01 or 0.02 and new members wont feel it worth it

especially ( and this is my best guess ) i think you got all those new referrals from places like facebook and other social networks , because i don't think there's any active ptc member currently who doesn't have or had an account in neobux

even if those were active some may join then find a better referral deal or referral back offer and re join the site under another referral , so lots of possibilities

in my site for example i sell referrals who were active and clicking for over 10 days and i recycle inactive referrals

so if neo is selling real referrals they should be selling those active and clicking for over 1 month at least
but they sell pure bots

the everlasting problem is lots of members in neo are sure from this fact and yet deny it just to attract new referrals and sell ideas of strategies and what so ever , it's always same idea and same ways

and finally if you are sure neobux sells real referrals not bots , are you willing to stop advertising it and use the money to rent referrals instead ?
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: PapaiMark on September 08, 2012, 08:30:56 PM
 plus1 Clear and concise.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: KaiserSoze on December 03, 2012, 11:10:14 AM
These are my Direct referrals real people between September 5 to 7th 2012, NOT rented referrals...

And not everyone manages to click the orange ones, or sometimes only do 3 or 2. So it's not really much different than rented types.

(http://i46.tinypic.com/2j11lhg.png)
That's a good counter argument. Both opinions have valid arguments. I am a standard member on NeoBux for 2 weeks now. I have 23 rented referals and I will see how it goes. I must admit that some referals behave strange. 2-3 of them clicked the day after I rented them and have stopped for 4 days and today they suddenly got back to make their second 4 clicks. Accept from this, I do not see ant anomalies yet, but my sample of test is too small.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: KaiserSoze on December 27, 2012, 07:52:40 PM
My personal study of this site has ended. As a conclusion, I totally agree with the people that observe rented referrals obvious bot essence. I will post more thorough and detailed review of my experience tomorrow, because I am tired. Just a funny hit. I intentionally left all my RRs to expire the last 2 weeks. One of them was inactive the last 12 days, but today, right before, its expiration, it 'clicked'. IMO, RRs are just generated fake earnings you get for your investment (rental fee). Of course, it is a calculated script that you can not or rarely can profit from.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: ruicarlov on February 15, 2013, 06:43:19 PM
Just thought I'd add something else to the discussion. A year had come and gone and I'm still around Neobux. Having gathered some direct referrals, my observations are two:
1- Referrals with whom I directly recruited and explained the rules usually click all their ads.
2- Direct referrals got by advertising on other sites also have really weird clicking habits. 3 clicks, 2 clicks, couple of days without clicking. I have it all. Therefore, I no longer believe rented refs are bots. They are just people which are not very motivated and not well informed about neobux
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: clickercents on June 28, 2013, 04:13:12 PM
Admins that sell referrals, are selling admin click bots. Every scripts seems to have them now, at least the ones I saw offering it.

No admin is going to rent you bot referrals and take a loss. They are out to make money from anything they sell or rent.

Advertising at any site that uses admin click bots is a waste of your money. Admin click bots don't sign up as your referral and they don't do sign ups offers. Their bot clicks at least on my sites ptp, show them as invalid hits. Their from a domain and they all have the same isp address. So admin click bots are worthless.

Yes some real people referrals stop clicking ads. That happens at every site. But the ones that stay and like a site. They click and earn you referral commissions.

Admin referrals you have to spend more money to buy new ones. After the old ones expire. A real person referral. The only cost you have is the ad you bought to get that referral(s).

Ever notice how fast memberships count jump in most ptc sites. Admin click bots accounts are counted as members in the membership total. Also a dishonest admin can alter the membership count. Admins that do that. May be also dishonest in other things and maybe will not pay you.

The whole false membership count, that keeps growing. Is just sucker bait. To get you to sign up. Almost all their membership count is false. Just do what I done to test a few of those new fast growing sites out. Join them and buy a 1000 click ad. Some take forever. to get the 1000 clicks. Even though they claim thousands of members. Others, the clicks are used up in from 3-5 days. Because they are loaded with admin click bots. Also either no sign ups or if I was lucky, perhaps a couple. This from sites that claim thousands of members.

Look for small membership site. Those webmasters almost always don't lie about their membership count nor do they use admin bots. Remember real people referrals do sign up from ads. If they like what they see. Small membership site also pay their members, very few do a runner. Some have been online for years and are still paying. That is because they are sustainable sites.

Before and after you join a site. Look around to see if they rent admin referrals. Then decide if you really want to waste your time and money.



Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: diannesitro on September 10, 2013, 07:57:53 PM
Edited by moderator: Please, don't try to bypass the rules again.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: BuxEnz on September 25, 2013, 08:41:18 AM
Admins that sell referrals, are selling admin click bots. Every scripts seems to have them now, at least the ones I saw offering it.

No admin is going to rent you bot referrals and take a loss. They are out to make money from anything they sell or rent.

Advertising at any site that uses admin click bots is a waste of your money. Admin click bots don't sign up as your referral and they don't do sign ups offers. Their bot clicks at least on my sites ptp, show them as invalid hits. Their from a domain and they all have the same isp address. So admin click bots are worthless.

Yes some real people referrals stop clicking ads. That happens at every site. But the ones that stay and like a site. They click and earn you referral commissions.

Admin referrals you have to spend more money to buy new ones. After the old ones expire. A real person referral. The only cost you have is the ad you bought to get that referral(s).

Ever notice how fast memberships count jump in most ptc sites. Admin click bots accounts are counted as members in the membership total. Also a dishonest admin can alter the membership count. Admins that do that. May be also dishonest in other things and maybe will not pay you.

The whole false membership count, that keeps growing. Is just sucker bait. To get you to sign up. Almost all their membership count is false. Just do what I done to test a few of those new fast growing sites out. Join them and buy a 1000 click ad. Some take forever. to get the 1000 clicks. Even though they claim thousands of members. Others, the clicks are used up in from 3-5 days. Because they are loaded with admin click bots. Also either no sign ups or if I was lucky, perhaps a couple. This from sites that claim thousands of members.

Look for small membership site. Those webmasters almost always don't lie about their membership count nor do they use admin bots. Remember real people referrals do sign up from ads. If they like what they see. Small membership site also pay their members, very few do a runner. Some have been online for years and are still paying. That is because they are sustainable sites.

Before and after you join a site. Look around to see if they rent admin referrals. Then decide if you really want to waste your time and money.

Besides the bots study your post is an eye opener because it also covers the truth from the point of view of the advertisers. I will write an article for my blog about this matter, based on your post if you don’t mind. Clickers and advertisers have to know.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Dav7 on October 10, 2013, 05:07:19 PM
Just thought I'd add something else to the discussion. A year had come and gone and I'm still around Neobux. Having gathered some direct referrals, my observations are two:
1- Referrals with whom I directly recruited and explained the rules usually click all their ads.
2- Direct referrals got by advertising on other sites also have really weird clicking habits. 3 clicks, 2 clicks, couple of days without clicking. I have it all. Therefore, I no longer believe rented refs are bots. They are just people which are not very motivated and not well informed about neobux

people that keep complaining about how strange rented referrals act certainly had not many direct referrals to compare. I have many direct and rented referrals and know from my study that their activity is similar!
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Jas0n6565 on January 17, 2014, 09:52:13 PM
I give my opinion now .......... here we go  scamr:

As a standard member, I was renting refs.
All rented refs where reasonable. Till I've build-them up.

After that, I wanna go to: Golden Member and spend $90 for it.

The first 2 weeks all ok.
After those 2 weeks, my BEP did go down massively !!!!!!!
Since then, Neobux bots have scammed me $25 out of investment of: $125
Also, I've only won 1x week, adprize as Golden.
Before, I almost won daily !!!

I was thinking after it: bad luck, bad luck, I will try again over 2 years beeing Free Member again.

2 years later ............

The exact same story ..... !!!!
In the beginning all ok, and then after 2 weeks ....

It are maybe not bots, but it's definitly a computer program that runs alls things !!!
After this second try, I've lost over $40
And I win only 2 adprizes a month as Golden now.

If you look closely, you will find a repeating system/way.

Adprize is random, kick my ...  ::swearing
Adprize is good for free members, not for: Golden !!!
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Jas0n6565 on January 17, 2014, 10:02:15 PM
Ones, I had a small complain.

For that, they have banned me from forum and chat.

Unreasonable !!
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Jas0n6565 on January 17, 2014, 10:07:16 PM
For every rented ref, I recycle ........

I get another "bad" one, in it's place.

All my rented refs from in the beginning, are all at least ones recycled !!!

99,99% of them, within 2 first months.

This is not natural behaviour.

I myself, am clicking from almost the time: Neobux exists !!!
All my rented refs, are dead within a few weeks.

Make you're own conclusion
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: Neo6ux on January 26, 2014, 06:02:19 AM
I checked all the activity on your referrals, thanks for taking the time to show us how they can click on average. I have and manage a bunch of refs myself and keep the ones that avg are 1.5.  Most of the time though, you might have to recycle cause your best clicker could stop clicking all of a sudden and you could have recycled sooner for a possible better one.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: aanku1008 on January 26, 2014, 09:00:12 AM
 :bang You can never anticipate the clicks of rented referrals.  ::bang You will get over all avg less than 2. So increase your DR   swim:
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: aanku1008 on March 19, 2014, 02:18:15 PM
Initially I was crazy about Neobux due to it's simplicity. So, I upgraded to Golden and rented 448 referrals. I am clicking daily so that I can get credits from referrals. Autorenew activated. But within 2 months, it decreased to 229 as they are not clicking. Most of them became inactive. So, I am not earning as expected. One more cons is if you do not renew RR then Neobux also charge for it. Means you have double loss.

I have not received my invested money :(
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: inoxzg on March 27, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
On Neo only way to earn money is from Mini Jobs and from yours clix.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: aanku1008 on March 28, 2014, 08:59:37 AM
On Neo only way to earn money is from Mini Jobs and from yours clix.

Mini job comes according to geographic filter. So, no all people are so lucky.
I am not geting any job since last month and also it's to hectic and lengthy. Better to search other options.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: PNPComm on March 28, 2014, 02:28:33 PM
On Neo only way to earn money is from Mini Jobs and from yours clix.

Mini job comes according to geographic filter. So, no all people are so lucky.
I am not geting any job since last month and also it's to hectic and lengthy. Better to search other options.

are there no businesses in your area that want more customers or income? you would think that at least one real business in your area has something that you could afford to buy...

what is so hectic and lengthy about clicking a few links?

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Better to search other options.

care to elaborate what criteria you will be basing your 'other options' searching on?
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: gascavesela on April 02, 2014, 03:41:34 PM
http://www.talkptc.com/index.php?topic=49681.0
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: DaRcK_0nE on June 06, 2014, 09:47:20 PM
Thank you for sharing this informations. 1 more PTC deleted from my list :shoot
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: ryansjones on June 11, 2014, 04:28:12 AM
I've tried renting referrals at neobux myself.  I do have to say I am somewhat disappointed with the results.  At first I was making about $1 a day or more from my referrals (at one point I had almost 200 referrals), but some of them never clicked and it did get expensive to renew them (even with autopay on) and ended up losing most of them (now I only have 5 rental referrals).  Interestingly I tried a similar strategy at Probux (which is pretty similar to Neobux in many ways) and got better results (though one trick I find useful is to rent referrals as a paid member since you earn more from their clicks than you would as a free member).  I usually average up to $3 or more in referral clicks at probux (though click rates do fluctuate, especially whenever you cash out).  I wonder if it is better to upgrade at Neobux before attempting rental referrals?
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: aanku1008 on July 01, 2014, 06:48:26 AM
I've tried renting referrals at neobux myself.  I do have to say I am somewhat disappointed with the results.  At first I was making about $1 a day or more from my referrals (at one point I had almost 200 referrals), but some of them never clicked and it did get expensive to renew them (even with autopay on) and ended up losing most of them (now I only have 5 rental referrals).  Interestingly I tried a similar strategy at Probux (which is pretty similar to Neobux in many ways) and got better results (though one trick I find useful is to rent referrals as a paid member since you earn more from their clicks than you would as a free member).  I usually average up to $3 or more in referral clicks at probux (though click rates do fluctuate, especially whenever you cash out).  I wonder if it is better to upgrade at Neobux before attempting rental referrals?

I would not recommend to upgrade if you don't have enough DR. RR is bot only, their clicks will be adjusted below of your current income from RR.

You will loose your money. I am suffering the same.  :'(
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: musaj on July 02, 2014, 05:54:50 PM
Yes We all know Neobux
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: brian86 on July 21, 2014, 03:28:17 PM
I have 100 rented referrals there and they also behave suspiciously like bots. I'll post the stats if you guys are interested.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: galihlp008 on August 20, 2014, 05:38:46 AM
Maybe we need to Upgrade our Membership First before we Rent Refferal...  ::popcorn
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: aanku1008 on August 21, 2014, 01:50:27 PM
After upgrading, I faced low RR click
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: helander on January 06, 2015, 03:34:59 PM
Hmm.

I've read all of these posts.

I still thinking Rented Referrals are not bots.
Why they have to be? What is the reason?


First of, is here anyone who have some really proof of that? Who is the admin of the NeoBux? What he says about this myth?

How about those people who has a proof they have been succesful with rented referrals?

Neobux is the most common PTC site, if they really has a bots, why everyone really don't know that yet?

Most of the money NeoBux get from advertisers and upgrades. If they rent bots and people see as a free member it's not valuable, they never gonna upgrade and NeoBux never get money. That's not just make a sense.

I think this bots myth coming from people who don't know how business works and how to manage rented referrals.
I recommend to download free software Neobux Referrals Handy Manager, with that it's easier manage your clickers.

For everyone I can recommend to read Robert Kiyosakis - Rich dad poor dad. That will tells you what is the business about and how to make money. Peace  ;)
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: PapaiMark on January 06, 2015, 04:48:09 PM
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Why they have to be? What is the reason?
obviously, to earn money.

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First of, is here anyone who have some really proof of that? Who is the admin of the NeoBux? What he says about this myth?
Don't need to see atoms. It is NOT a MYTH. It's been openly declared, negotiated and sold for some owners and sellers.

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Neobux is the most common PTC site, if they really has a bots, why everyone really don't know that yet?
but everybody ALREADY knows.

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...e member it's not valuable, they never gonna upgrade and NeoBux never get money. That's not just make a sense.
That depends on how the lie is told.
Members show proofs of $500, for one.
But no one says how much they invested or most probably they never control or make the maths. You will see that they usually invested something about $500  :P

etc etc etc


Receive money from advertisers is never enough. If it was, every bux would success. But you see exactly the opposite.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: lubo on August 06, 2017, 11:51:46 AM
......
I think this bots myth coming from people who don't know how business works and how to manage rented referrals.
I recommend to download free software Neobux Referrals Handy Manager, with that it's easier manage your clickers.

......
Most of the posts here come from people with rich PTC experience and even PTC owners. But what is your PTC experience at all?
If you have read all the post you have probably seen a lot of strong proofs about the NeoBux business model. If you expect the NeoBux owner to post that his sit is a bot site it won't happen. So you have to read and think some more deeply. Or if you want a 100% proof just try it. A lot of people did it and then posted here. Good Luck

NeoBux is still live only because of the people who want to try and give them money. And some people who see that their balance is negative but believe that in the future they will make a profit. Not very clever obviously.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: khairunnahar on October 16, 2017, 06:41:21 AM
I think this bots myth coming from people who don't know how business works and how to manage rented referrals.
I recommend to download free software Neobux Referrals Handy Manager, with that it's easier manage your clickers.
Title: Re: Neobux Bots Study
Post by: erru9107 on January 08, 2020, 10:12:45 AM
I think I have to share my story here. I've been with Neobux for a little bit over 5 years now, I'm an Ultimate member and I do have invested some money but the most important part is: I don't care if the rented refs are bots or not.

The reason for this is simple: I am making money from these refs. I personally think that there might be a mix between real and bot refs but I don't know for sure. Anyway, the first reason that many people say that neobux RR are bots are that they do, like in this thread, a test where they rent X amount of refs and let them work for the 30 days you get them for, and then see if they made a profit. This issue with this is that in 99% of cases you will end up with a loss using this strategy. What you need to do is rent a few refs and extend them for 240 days. To get accurate data, write down the total clicks each day for 240 days and then sum it all up and compare income to the cost of extending all those refs for 240 days.

You also need to treat each referral as a "slot" rather then a referral that you let expire if it doesn't work like you want it to. You also need to do some active recycling. I used Neobux Referrals Handy Manager and I managed, as a Standard member, to consistently get an average of about 1.4-1.5. With me extending my refs for 240 days I got a BEP (Break Even Point) of 0.933 which left me with a profit. Some would now argue that "well you recycled so all in all you lost money". True, I did recycle, but I used something that I call PM (Profit Margin) to handle my recycling. Meaning that if I had, say $0.22 profit one day, I would only recycle 3 ref (costs $0.21) which would still leave me with a profit that day. Naturally some days were bad and recycling needed to be done anyway but over all, I earned enough money, from RR alone, to upgrade to Golden within about a year.

Then comes the next complaint that rented refs are bots: When you upgrade to Golden you avg suddenly drops after about 1-2 weeks. Again, there is an explination for this, and that simply is the ref filter. I don't know if they are bots or real people, but the fact is that as a Standard member you have the best referral filter on the site to give you that type of avg. As a Golden member, you earn $0.01 from refs instead of $0.005 which means your BEP gets a lot lower and therefor the filter doesn't need to be as good to make a profit. Also, the reason it takes 1-2 weeks is that the Auto-recycle feature for a Golden member is 14 days inactivity, so it only stands to reason that you have to wait at least 14 days before about 95% of your standard refs has turned into golden refs.

I kept working like I did and still managed to turn a profit from my rented referrals, doing recycling and keeping my refs "fresh". A little over 4 years later I finally turned Ultimate and currently I have 999 RR. The profit from these aren't enough to cover the membership cost but that was something I was expecting and I've planned my way forward well so I will be able to earn a profit again within about 1-2 years.

Since I turned Ultimate, the BEP has increased and so has the referral filter. And similar to when I turned Golden it took some days before I noticed the difference in avg. It was however a quicker change due to the auto-recycle for Ultimate members is 7 days. You need a better filter in order to turn a profit as an Ultimate, and as such the filter is better. However your BEP is lower then as a Standard member so your filter is actually worse then that one.

I have invested some money just to speed things up a little bit, and yes I currently haven't gotten that money back. But the fact still remains, my rented referrals are making me money due to the fact that I manage them properly. From my calculations, if I were to just let them all expire and then cash out whatever money was in my account, I would be getting at least 2x my investment back, and the reason for that is that my account hasn't been losing money. The only reason for my investment has been to speed things up and not wait to use profit only to make some aggressive moves for my account.


Also worth mentioning is that I have 0 Direct Referrals, all of this has been done with rented referrals alone. And again, I don't know if the refs are bots or not, I highly doubt they are only real people so some bots most likely is involved. But still, I am making a profit from these rented referrals so if they are bots or not isn't something I care about at all. All I'm watching is the actual profit they are making me and I'm planning to keep on renting until I reach around 10k and then we'll see where I go from there.